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Christians flee the Muslim world

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Charlie Hebdo riot: 45 churches torched, 10 killed in Niger

See BBC report

Protests broke out over the weekend in several Muslim countries (Niger, Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, Senegal, Mali, Mauritania, Yemen, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain, Jordan, Pakistan) with violent clashes taking place in Karachi, Algiers and Khartoum.

Updated: 1.45am on 21 Jan 2015

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Amid growing concern by the Vatican for Middle East Christians who live “in environments marked by hostility and conflicts”, Pope Francis met with patriarchs from Lebanon, Iran, Iraq and Syria where the flocks “have grown increasingly vulnerable amid the upheavals of recent years”, a TIME magazine report said.

Following the meeting in Rome two days ago (Thursday), the pontiff indicated his grave concern about the Christians who “suffer in a particularly severe way the consequences of tensions and conflicts in many parts of the Middle East”.

Pope Francis meets Middle East patriarchs -- photo credit: Vatican (21 Nov 2013)
The Middle East patriarchs meet Pope Francis in Rome

BBC: Islamist extremists attacking Middle East Christians

“In recent years millions of Christians have been displaced in the region. They have fled attacks by Islamist extremists and growing tensions since the Arab spring”, said the BBC. The Christian communities in the Levant are fast dwindling with many becoming refugees and some Orthodox Christians applying for Russian citizenship. See ‘Pope bemoans plight of Mid-East Christians’ (BBC, Nov 21)

Earlier, a news daily The Irish Catholic reported that mass graves have been uncovered in Sadad, a village some 160km north of the Syrian capital Damascus. Archbishop Selwanos Boutros Alnemeh, Syriac Orthodox Metropolitan of Homs and Hama, was quoted two weeks ago as saying: “What happened in Sadad is the largest massacre of Christians in Syria and the second in the Middle East, after the one in the Church of Our Lady of Salvation in Iraq, in 2010.”

(The attack on the Church of Our Lady of Salvation in Baghdad by an Al-Qaeda affiliate killed 58 people, said a New York Times report on 1 Nov 2010.)

Muslim gunmen sprayed bullets at the Church of Our Lady of Salvation congregation
Jihadis sprayed bullets at the Church of Our Lady of Salvation congregation in Baghdad

Daily Telegraph: Christians “face extinction” amid sectarian terror

According to Chaldean Patriarch Louis Sako, prior to 2003 more than a million Christians lived in Iraq but now there are only around 400,000 — said an AP news agency report filed in Baghdad on Nov 20 (Wed). The Iraqi Christians continue to flee their country following the continuous wave of attacks on them.

In Syria the Christian population is similarly haemorrhaging, said Baroness Sayeeda Warsi, the Minister for Faith in the British Cabinet. See ‘Christians “face extinction” amid sectarian terror, minister warns‘ (The Daily Telegraph, Nov 14)

The same Daily Telegraph article also quoted the Archbishop of Canterbury – one of the church leaders in the UK who has become “increasingly alarmed at the rising numbers of sectarian attacks on churches in the Islamic world” – describing the victims of bombings in Pakistan as Christian “martyrs”.

Gereja dibakar di Pakistan (sumber gambar: sini)
St Paul’s Lutheran church in Mardan, Pakistan torched on 21 Sept 2012

Churches set afire in Pakistan, guards shot dead

On 22 Sept 2013, twin bombings at the All Saints Church in Peshawar had left over 80 people dead and 150 injured from the blasts occurring right after Sunday mass, The Express Tribune reported. Biometric-enabled security gates have since been installed by Pakistani police at the church.

However the climate of fear was renewed two days ago among Peshawar Christians when a policeman who was guarding the Assembly of God (AOG church) Swati Gate was shot dead by unidentified gunmen.

Pastor A. R. Hashmat told the Pakistani Christian Post (Nov 21) that the shooting was the second such attack on the Pentecostal church this year.

Some of the injured in the Nairobi mall attack: AP Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/world/who-are-al-shabab-the-islamist-terror-group-that-attacked-1125963.html?utm_source=ref_article
Some of the victims of Nairobi mall attack – AP pix

Widespread attacks on Christians in Africa

Recently on Nov 22, Al-Jazeera reported that ‘UN officials warn of CAR “genocide” risk‘. CAR is the Central African Republic where the armed Muslim Seleka rebels have been targeting churches and Christians in their acts of terrorism.

Rwanda UN ambassador Eugene Richard Gasana was quoted as saying the current chaotic situation in the Central African Republic reminded him of his own country back in 1994 when the majority Hutu massacred the minority Tutsi.

Killing of Christians is taking place in other African countries as well.

The al-Shabaab Islamist radicals were suspected to have bombed a restaurant in Mogadishu, Somalia and killing at least 15 people while wounding nearly two dozen on Sept 7, the Christian Science Monitor reported.

In Kenya, the same al-Shabaab group had asked Muslim hostages to leave before shooting their Christian victims in Nairobi’s premiere shopping centre. The attack took place at midday 21 Sept 2013 when the al-Shabaab militants stormed the Westgate mall, throwing grenades and firing indiscriminately at shoppers.

The Guardian reported that the siege on the mall lasted 80 hours and resulted in at least 67 deaths.

Sumber gambar: AFP
Coptic church in Alexandria, Egypt – AFP pix

Egypt Christians: Islamists threatening ‘slaughter’

Over the last few years, not only have churches been bombed in Egypt but Christian homes attacked with gasoline bombs.

In August this year, human rights groups warned that more violence was about to erupt against Egypt’s Christians. See ‘Egypt Christian: Islamists threatening ‘slaughter’ (CBN News, 11 Aug 2013). And they were right.

In the latter half of month of August alone, 100 churches and Christian institutions in all were attacked, according to the offices of Coptic Orthodox Pope Tawadros II. A further 52 Christian schools, convents, monasteries, institutions, and churches were demolished. See, The Huffington Post (29 Aug 2013).

The violence against Christians in Egypt has not ceased but instead escalated.

All the articles cited on this page are recent items taken from renowned and reputable news organizations. The list above is far from exhaustive.

Anti-Christian attacks carried out in the Muslim world are too numerous, so much so that there are websites dedicated to recording these global episodes on a daily basis. Christians and Muslims the world over are involved in violent conflict.

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47 thoughts on “Christians flee the Muslim world

  1. from Abdul Hakim Murad @Cambridge:

    The ‘universal’ religion is not merely the religion that claims to be for all; it is the religion that claims that God has always been for all. Thus, there can be no Muslim ‘scandal of particularity’.

    The radicals are announcing only one thing: ‘Attention! This vehicle is reversing!’

    True religion invites us to become better people. False religion tells us that this has already occurred.

    We need less self-righteousness and more self-knowledge.

    1. re: “We need less self-righteousness and more self-knowledge.”

      The Jerusubang evangelistas are too full of it (self-righteousness), I’m afraid.

      re: “We need … more self-knowledge.”

      Still on the topic of Jerusubang evangelistas, self-knowledge is rather difficult to be attained by midget minds, particularly when ensconced in a self-created environment of suka putar alam that is enveloped by fitnah and wrapped in narcissism.

      1. more from the Sheikh@Cambridge:

        Exclusivism is less oppressive to the oppressed than to the oppressor. ((my comments: it wraps us in self-grandiose delusions that handicap us in the way we deal with ourselves and others at the practical level).

        It’s called the consumer society because it consumes us. (these part-time secular humanists are hungry for gold and glory so will end up wasting their souls for the sake of the world)

        Courtesy and knowledge are like two hands washing each other. ((like faithful Malays say: Kalau tingkah laku dah biadap, ilmu apa pun tak berapa guna untuk selamatkan diri apalagi untuk membela orang lain).

        1. re: “apalagi untuk membela orang lain”

          Maaf cakap terkasar sedikit tetapi hakikatnya ialah makhluk-makhluk perosak yang hinggap di Jerusubang itu pasti akan menjahanamkan jiran tetangga mereka.

          1. In my opinion, part of the problems are huge number of the ‘born-again’ are still “young & immature” or have little experience in religion before. It does not help when the preachers are not much better.

            People like these are prone to be overzealous. They enter religion and pass judgement as if that maturity in religion come immediately. No religion are spared in these unhealthy trend.

            1. re: “It does not help when the preachers are not much better.”

              Below is Pastor Kevin Loo of City Harvest Church, Subang Jaya. He started serving the Lord at age 17.

              May God save and spare the Malaysia Chinese community.

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  2. while here in Malaysia, christians can easily convert and question the very basic beliefs of muslims word, allah.

      1. Why peninsular Christians who don’t speak Arabic nor worship in bahasa Melayu so adamant on using that Arabic word? Since when have peninsular Christians loved anything Arabic?

        In the very first book of the Bible, Genesis, God says “My name is YHWH’.

        See,
        google books: Guess What I Discovered On The Way To Church?

        Exodus 29:46

        American Standard Version (ASV)

        46 And they shall know that I am Jehovah their God, that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I might dwell among them: I am Jehovah their God.

        ‘Thou wishest to know My name. Well, I am called according to My work; sometimes I am called “Almighty G-d”, “Lord of Hosts”, “G-d”, “Lord”. When I am judging created beings, I am called “G-d” (Elohim), and when I am waging war against the wicked, I am called “El Shaddai” (Almighty G-d), and when I am merciful towards My world, I am called “Adonai”, for “Adonai” refers to the Attribute of Mercy, as it is said: The Lord, the Lord (Adonai, Adonai), G-d, merciful and gracious. Hence I am that I am in virtue of My deeds.’

        See, http://www.cs.utah.edu/~spiegel/kabbalah/jkm010.htm

        “YHWH” is mentioned 6,828 times in the Old Testament. “Elohim” occurs 2,570 times in the Old Testament.

        See, http://www.godsbreathpublications.com/the-names-of-god/

        And how many times is ‘Allah’ mentioned in any English bible?

          1. First they say the want to terjemah God to Bahasa Melayu into Allah. When the good Melayu had been reminding them that they can use Tuhan, which is the correct translation, they berlagak bodoh sombong, typical of them and try to bully the Melayu Gomen, although most speaks BM ‘macam baru sampai dengan tongkang tadi malam’.

            And when the Melayu Gomen tries to put a stop after countless surat amaran for years, they brought the case to court!

            And when they lost the appeal, they bully again but now singing a different tune, so much of a penipu that they are, like one feringghi kat atas tu, by saying that the Malays does not take ownership of the word Allah, since it is Arabic; But they do!

            Tak faham bahasa kakis, macam HY, HH, ACDC and some mabuk’s kaki does not understand Bahasa Melayu to begin with. Just like the portugis and belanda who had done the bahasa indon al kitab!

            But hey, just like Murphy Pakiam and gangs, they are telling the Muslims to better kenal their Allah while trying to teach the Melayus on Bahasa Melayu.

            No wonder Kaakaa never stops laughing!

        1. “Why peninsular Christians who don’t speak Arabic nor worship in bahasa Melayu so adamant on using that Arabic word?”

          You are setting up a straw man argument here. The word Allah is used by the Malay speaking Sabah and Sarawakian Christian natives. That was actually the crux of the whole debate between the Catholic Church and the Government.

          This explains why even Barisan Nasional leaders such as James Masing came out in defense of the Christian native congregation to use the word.

          1. I see the impasse as a law enforcement issue overlaid with political considerations.

            The 10-point solution brokered by Idris Jala permits the use of the word ‘Allah’ in the Malay bible for Christians who are natives of Sabah and Sarawak.

            Whereas in Selangor, the Sultan bertitah that the ‘Allah’ word should not be used in Bibles.

            What the two differing approaches illustrate is that the authorities are willing to ‘allow’ (refrain from blocking) the Sabahans and Sarawakians to continue with their practice but they (the Islamic councils and agencies) do not trust the Chinese and Indian evangelistas on the peninsula to do the same.

            Therefore, the crux of the ‘problem’ is how the peninsula Chinese and Indian Christians are perceived by the majority Malay Muslims. Without the interference and incitement – for opportunistic, vote-fishing reasons – by the DAP evangelistas, the Idris Jala solution would have held up.

            1. To add:

              Therefore, the crux of the ‘problem’ is how the peninsula’s Chinese and Indian Christians are perceived WITH GRAVE AND JUSTIFIED SUSPICION by the majority Malay Muslims.

              1. Helen,

                Yup. Vast majority of malays do not trust Chinese especially. What more DAP or its members.

                And this is one interesting comment from one UMNO friend in Ampang.

                “Apa pun dosa orang Melayu yg bertimbun timbun ini, kami berdoa janganlah diturunkan bala iaitu diberi kuasa pada komunis DAP atau sekutunya. ”

                Jika DAP memerintah, samakah seperti Yahudi dapat kuasa.

            2. “What the two differing approaches illustrate is that the authorities are willing to ‘allow’ (refrain from blocking) the Sabahans and Sarawakians to continue with their practice but they (the Islamic councils and agencies) do not trust the Chinese and Indian evangelistas on the peninsula to do the same.”

              With this, I rest my case on my earlier statement that you have been setting up a straw-man argument.

              The Chinese and Indian Christians in West Malaysia do not use Bahasa Melayu (and hence the nomenclature of ‘Allah’) in their scripture. It is the native Christians, mostly from East Malaysia who do so.

              That is why the Government chose to back down and concede that the Sabahans and Sarawakians should not be barred from using ‘Allah’ once they started to voice their displeasure. Had they understood the demography instead of resorting to their Peninsula-centric mindset this whole issue would have been averted.

              “Therefore, the crux of the ‘problem’ is how the peninsula Chinese and Indian Christians are perceived by the majority Malay Muslims.”

              Perhaps you should not miss the forest for the trees, and extend this to Chinese Buddhists and Indian Hindus too. Did we not read some comments of your regular readers here who voiced such prejudiced opinions of Hindus? Not to mention, the wishes for the government to do “something” about the small “idolatrous” Hindu temples around the nation?

              The root of the problem, is from the idea of religious and racial supremacy held by certain quarters of citizens, that there should be no place for other religions in Malaysia.

              1. re: “With this, I rest my case on my earlier statement that you have been setting up a straw-man argument.”

                Your so-called self-made “case” is about as convincing as the Alvivi affidavit trying to hoodwink the prosecutor’s office that Bak Kut Teh is NOT pork.

                re: “The Chinese and Indian Christians in West Malaysia do not use Bahasa Melayu (and hence the nomenclature of ‘Allah’) in their scripture.”

                Duh, carrying coal to Newcastle? It is precisely because the Chinese and Indian Christians disdain BM that their insistence on the word causes the Malay authorities, who instituted the various state enactments on banned Islamic words, to be suspicious of the evangelista’s ulterior motives.

                re: “Had they understood the demography instead of resorting to their Peninsula-centric mindset this whole issue would have been averted.”

                This whole issue would have been averted had there been no rise and rise of the DAP evangelistas.

                re: “Not to mention, the wishes for the government to do “something” about the small ‘idolatrous’ Hindu temples around the nation?”

                The gomen should indeed. The Indians deserve better. Build them decent temples so that there is no need to have pitiful shrines sprout under trees and in rock crevices.

                re: “The root of the problem, is from the idea of religious and racial supremacy held by certain quarters of citizens, that there should be no place for other religions in Malaysia.”

                You’re definitely talking about PAS here.

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        Omar Roz

        I imagine that you would be happy if your

        name is melayunised just like Omar Pakiam.

        If you want to use the god of the melayus as your

        god , your fellow catholic fraternity

        should start using melayu names just as the

        chinese and kohlings in Indonesia do!

        Katijah Kok , Omar Andrew, Hanana Yeoh

        or Siti Neoha N Ching should be the

        style of the day!

        I notice in 1 hard-core catholic blog a

        ‘Omaro X ‘ is popular.Thomas, Andrew and

        Teresa should go into the dustbin !

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        In the spirit of 1-Malaysia , Omar Ongkie

        should persuade Dato Najib to get Malaysians

        to use melayunised ‘christian’ names. After

        all Idris Jala had started the ball rollin’….

        Omar Pakiam seriously ought to seriously

        consider to correct the mistranslation. Maybe

        I could ask Omar Ongkie to look into forcing

        the catholic to comply

        with the translation directives of the Dewan

        Base so that BM translation must follow Kamus

        Dewan

        Let us review : catholics Indonesia Branch have been

        involved in the mistranslation of English into

        Bahasa Indonesia [BI].

        First verse of the bible-

        In the name of The holy Father, the Son and The holy

        Ghost..

        BI translation is read as: ‘atas nama Tuhan Bapa, Tuhan Anak

        [Yesus Kristus] dan Roh Kudus…..

        The translation of Holy ghost is palpably wrong. Ghost can be

        translated into one

        of 20 melayu ghost names. The one suggested by Pak Yeh looks

        accurate- Pontianak suci/bersih is most apt looking

        at the background story as how the Ghost [of

        Jesus as narrated by Saul] came about.

        Now even on a fundamental thing , the Dutch translators got it

        wrong. And the present day catholic chief -Omar Pakiam

        is insisting on the wrong translation of God as Allah.

        Get this: Your catholic god is a 3-god-in-1 thingy. Saying your

        god is 1 is a no no by catholic belief and

        would bring you into the dustbin

        of heresy and put you in the excommunication status. Omar

        Pakiam said that catholic god is

        1 god [ as reported by Fat- Bastard- Jo Lho’s TMI]

        and I believed he would after the straight-faced lie, repent

        privately with a few thousand ‘Hail Mary’

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  3. Helen, Isn’t the low-class high class thingy that’d become daily diet of DAPsters a premonition of what’s about to happen in our dear country in tandem with what’s happening elsewhere?

    This intensified effort by Jerusubangites and their undercover agents in PAS looks too convincing to ignore that they are bent on directing the religious flame from Africa, the Middle East and South Asia to this part of the world.

    That basic law of Physics, to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, seems to cut no ice with these sendiri angkat bakul genus.

    1. puak ni apabila diserang, mereka akan heboh pada dunia bahawa mereka dizalimi, hak mereka dicerobohi…

      tidak akan disebut langsung apa puncanya mereka dilayan sebegitu….

      berita betapa tertindasnya mereka tentu membayangkan kepada umum bahawa yang mengusir mereka ialah orang-orang islam yang jahat…

      tidak akan disebut langsung orang-orang islam yang jahat ini satu ketika dulu adalah ‘jiran-tetangga’ mereka yang asalnya baik tetapi bertukar kerana sering diprovokasi oleh mereka sendiri.

      sama saja dengan puak PR terutama DAP evangelis di negara ini.

      memang mencari penyakit namanya!

      1. Persamaan para penganut agama dengan para penganut agama yang lain ialah bukan semua penganut2 agama itu faham dengan agama yg mereka anuti. So samada mereka penganut Kristian atau mereka yg mengaku Islam kenalah faham isu ini lihat disini (klik)

      2. “puak ni apabila diserang, mereka akan heboh pada dunia bahawa mereka dizalimi, hak mereka dicerobohi…
        tidak akan disebut langsung apa puncanya mereka dilayan sebegitu….”

        Jadi, kita tak perlulah mengadu bila orang Palestin ditindas dan orang Rohingya diancam. Kerana, menurut En. Alwi, ada punca sebenar mengapa mereka dilayan sebegini, kan?

  4. The dance starts. From the onset of Helen’s post, commenters are jiving and hip hopping around the issue but never once, have the sincerity to go into the center and offer an honest word. Killing is plain wrong.

    Killing others when not acting in self-defense (meaning there is an imminent threat to your life) is wrong. Killing others because they don’t share your belief is wrong. Trying to justify your act by pointing fingers at others and coming up with excuses like ‘they deserve it, they ask for it, padan muka , we were provoked…’ are equally lame.

    Using perverted justice and exploiting it as some sort of ‘things to come’ threat to your fellow citizens, are just as deplorable, period.

    1. You provoke someone and you expect that person to sit idly eh ? You must also know that for every action there is a reaction. But people like you think you are free to do what you like and you expect those who you have taunted and provoked to do nothing.

      Is killing wrong ? Of course it is but before the killings start, you have been warned. People have given you ample time to stop the provocations. But alas the provocations continue.

      Now the warnings have been given. Stop the provocations.

      As for “fellow citizens”, that depends on perception. A people who have been here for over 2 centuries, a certain minority who were brought here without the consent of the native inhabitants and their rulers, continue to show disdain towards the natives and their rulers. Day in day out, over cyberspace, continuously deride the natives as “lazy, stupid, useless etc” yet expect the natives to accept them as equals and therefore, this minority can lay their hands on the riches, bounties of this land. What are these people ?

      The natives will be patience. The natives will continue to show benevolence towards the said minority. But be warned. There is a limit to one’s patience. You cross the Rubicon, and you pay the consequences.

      So what if you call the natives racist ? After May 5, all gloves are off. Continue to call the natives racist, Its okay. No big deal.

      1. ‘A people who have been here for over 2 centuries, a certain minority who were brought here without the consent of the native inhabitants and their rulers, continue to show disdain towards the natives and their rulers.’

        Encapsulate it all. Nuff said. What does coolies macam HH knows anyway.

  5. Errrr how many Palestinian Muslims have been massacred since majority of their lands where forcibly taken away from them?

    Why the pope and the previous ones kept mum on the long suffering downtrodden Palestinians?

    Jews global media machine propaganda is working full steam now.

    Cut this propaganda crap now laaa!

    1. Tak perlu pergi jauh sangat. kat Malaysia, pergi Penang. Lihat bagaimana orang Melayu dan India ditindas, dipermainkan, diperlakukan oleh kerajaan negeri.

      Orang Melayu dan India yang nak beli hartanah kat Pulau Pinang tak dapat beli sebab harga terlalu tinggi, kena pergi kat Seberang Prai. kenapa hartanah kat Pulau Pinang terlalu tinggi ? Sebab kerajaan negeri bersekongkol dengan pemaju hartanah.

      Bukan itu saja. Peniaga Melayu and India juga jadi mangsa kerajaan negeri yang serba kejam ni. Kejam sebab bila orang Melayu dan India berniaga, mereka akan diserbu oleh peguatkuasa konon mereka tak ada lesen. Satu penipuan besar. Peniaga Melayu dan India ada lesen, mereka tetap diserbu. Kerajaan apa ni ?

      Orang Melayu dan India perlu bersatu !

      1. Jangan lupa pergi Raja Uda tengok macam mana orang Cina niaga tengah jalan raya, kotor berminyak hitam jalan, tapi itu kedai melayu atas pokok juga LGE mahu kacau!

        Itu mamak itu LGE punya pol sec kacau, macam gangsters! Dasar kongsi gelap!

    2. “Errrr how many Palestinian Muslims have been massacred since majority of their lands where forcibly taken away from them?”

      How many Muslims have been killed in the Syrian War?

      Over 120,000. That is more than the number of casualties in the entire history of the Israel-Palestinian conflict. Yet, you support these takfiris in their jihad against the Alawites and other communities in Syria.

  6. The answer is so simple. MUTUAL RESPECT. ‘Respect’ itself represents vast understanding towards living and non living things. Through the process, the word ‘Mutual’ appears in so many ways. These two words have been twisted brutally to suit The New World Order.

    This has nothing to do with minority or majority. A simple question to ask ourselves. Why blame all the faults on Islam ? Have we ever heard such blames to other religions and believe ? NONE. Human Rights that are only applied only to the non muslims ? What about muslims that piously believe in their faith ? Dont they have the human rights ?

    Are they, the muslims being extremists, fighting for their lives and rights that have been denied physically and mentally (facts: long due and never ending suffer in Palestine – muslims not being treated fairly) are the true ‘axis of devils’ as purpoted by Bush Jr because of Sadam Hussein retaliation ?

    Who created ‘ islamophobia’ and planted deep hatred toward Islam and the muslims’ world ? Who justified the word ‘semantic’ ?

    Simple truth that is ‘ the root and the real axis of devils, lie in the players of the underworlds. The so called New World Order that will conquer our minds and souls. Once again become slaves to the ‘Master’ that you consider willing and unwillingly as the ‘saviour’ in the myths of fair, free and on the checkerboard of democratic world.

    Islam already established the ‘ Mutual Respect ‘ and ‘ the Human Rights ‘ fairly ( From Al Quran to Muhammad PBUH, the teaching of Allah SWT) throughout the glarious years on it’s peak as the first World Order that started the all the human believe, civilisation and modernisation, till now.

    Now, Islam has been denied, The New World Order just playing God of Doom!

  7. There is a commonality in all the places you have mentioned, which is the failure of its elected or official government.

    This is a lesson for our elected officials – when government is weak or disintegrating, the most influential (usually also the loudest) would be the strongest force and would usually wreak havoc.

    “I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody” – Bill Cosby. Someone should relate that to the PM.

  8. The Muslim profiling and discrimination faced by Muslims post 9/11 will be nothing compared to what comes next. I have a feeling that these events are a precursor to something bigger. These events will only provide justification for Christian countries, which are also superpowers to retaliate. And it won’t be a pretty sight. Today, there are already growing segments in Christian countries who are getting more vocal in their unhappiness of the Muslims in their countries.

    In Malaysia, I wonder if people ever thought of the consequences. Any conflict, be it racial or religious, will quickly turn into a civil war. Malaysia will never recover.

    To those who love to threaten others “to teach others a lesson” or openly calling for persecution of other races or religion, it would be prudent for them to think long and hard. Be careful of what you wish for…

    1. Now, Betty getting some bad press is an interesting development. Well “interesting” in the way the dapsters respond. Betty as the CM’s wife is off-limits but in the same breadth they spew hatred against the Rosmah the PM’s wife.

      1. Yet when The J-Star editorials repeatedly slam those labelled “hate-spewing, divisive, race-obsessed ignoramuses” by its Voices of Moderation campaign, it is strangely not Guan Eng’s supporters that the paper has in mind.

  9. On the Charlie Hebdo killings, I think TDM in his latest posting sums it up really well.
    http://chedet.cc/?p=1593

    France gave the right for Charlie to print those vile cartoons in the name of free speech and yet they arrested Dieudonne, “a comic who popularized an arm gesture that resembles a Nazi salute and who has been convicted repeatedly of racism and anti-Semitism”

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/france-arrests-54-in-hate-speech-anti-semitism-crackdown/article22442506/

    In the wake of that killings, we got the solidarity march –
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30767929

    Hmmm, what about these people?
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/tens-of-thousands-protest-against-french-magazine-charlie-hebdo-in-chechen-capital-1421673775
    Or these
    http://news.yahoo.com/muslims-philippines-march-against-charlie-hebdo-141708787.html

    But I believe the evangelist in M’sia will be studying this article –
    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/french-law-treats-dieudonne-charlie-hebdo-differently – in depth. It’s a lesson in spinning.

    1. re: The New Yorker article

      An enlightening piece.

      One passage reads:

      “… the over-all context of media in France. The airwaves and traditional media are dominated by non-Muslim voices.”

      In Malaysia, the English language media – airwaves, traditional media (in particular The J-Star), social media and most especially online news portals – are dominated by Christian voices who only permit Firsters to share their platform.

      This situation is enabled by the DAP and the opposition’s political clout as well as the MCA’s treacherous connivance.

      Among the non-Muslims in Malaysia, it is the minorities (Buddhist Chinese, Hindu Indians, Sikh Punjabis) who are most sidelined from having our voices heard in the national arena.

      I maintain that is it the loudly whinging evangelical Christians perennial claiming victimhood who are bullying the majority.

      1. Global crass materialism plus prosperity religion plus unrepentant cadres of the Chin Peng genre – not only fools Chinese and Indians … even unwary Muslims get conned (seactarian wahhabi radicals not included)

        1. Chris, Excellent comment. Excellent observation. We ponder. We consolidate. All good Malaysian people. And move on for more successes.Let history take care of the recalcitrants, the tom-tom boys and girls, etc. They should remain in history !

      2. It sums up the failure of the real moderates, people who desire peaceful coexistence. They allowed the extremists masquerading as moderates to hijack the middle ground and now we are in this predicament.

        They bullying will not stop even after these phony moderates attain political power. On the contrary the real bullying will begin when they attain political power. The minorities you spoke of will not be the only ones being bullied. Even the majority will be bullied. As a matter of fact the majority is now being bullied as well.

        Brother Chris,

        Crass materialism is a display of insecurity. People who have unfounded fears tend to embrace it along with the crass consumerism, thus you hear people say that nothing is ever enough. Those who are ignorant of their own cultural identity are also vulnerable to crass materialism. Once the belief that crass materialism is deeply embedded in the minds the crass consumerism begins.

        What you say is true. The Chinese do not have a monopoly over this crass materialism thing. The Indians too are now deep into it. Malays are just beginning to have a taste for it but without a doubt over time they too will become intoxicated by this crass materialism.

        1. Ya, they hijack the middle ground discourse by which they will be aggressively promoting libertarian lifestyles: LGBT parades, same-sex marriage and narcissistic middle-class hedonism.

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