The table below shows the current standing in Parliament of the BN component parties. In the blue boxes are the peninsular parties and in the cream boxes are the Sabah and Sarawak parties.
(1) Umno and (2) Sarawak Chief Minister Taib Mahmud’s PBB are the two strongest BN parties. Both are Muslim-dominated and “Bumiputera”.
Allowing that PBB is the taiko of the Bornean parties, let’s look at those in the peninsula which comprise Umno + Satellites.
Among the satellite parties you can discount the MCA. The Chinese party is out of government and its reps won their seats on Malay votes. Gerakan’s sole Parliament seat in Simpang Renggam, Johor, is also a Malay-majority area.
That leaves the MIC’s four Parliament seats to consider. They are:
- Segamat, Johor
- Tapah, Perak
- Cameron Highlands, Pahang
- Hulu Selangor, Selangor
Let’s look at the small wins by the MIC big guns
Cameron Highlands: MIC president G. Palanivel (10,506 votes) beat DAP’s M. Manogaran (10,044 votes) to win by a slim majority of 462 votes.
Segamat: MIC deputy president S. Subramaniam (20,037 votes) beat PKR’s Chua Jui Meng (18,820 votes) to win by a majority of 1,217 votes.
Hulu Selangor: Putera MIC chief P. Kamalanathan (37,403 votes) beat PKR’s Khalid Jaafar (33,989 votes) to win by a majority of 3,414 votes.
Tapah: MIC vice president M. Saravanan (20,670 votes) beat PKR’s Vasantha Kumar (12,743) to win by a majority of 7,927 votes.
The nature of the MIC wins
(A)
Palanivel got through by the skin of his teeth on a mere 462-vote majority in a constituency of roughly one-third Chinese electorate, not enough Malays (only 34.2%) and a huge Lain-Lain (21.1%) population of Orang Asli living in the Cameron hills.
He won his seat with a 91.3% share of the advance and postal votes. Wow, terribly impressed at the tsunamic proportion.
(B)
Subramaniam won in the Umno stronghold Johor by a 1,217-vote majority. But the spoilt votes in his constituency were 950. According to the Merdeka Center, 93.3% (!!) of the 603 postal and advance votes in Segamat had gone to the BN.
Furthermore, Dr Subra’s victory was obtained not on the back of any popularity among Indians since the Indian voter segment in Segamat is 9.87% (Chinese make up 45.6% of the voters and Malay 44.3%). Compare Kota Raja, Selangor which has 29.5% Indian voters and won by PAS.
Note: In Kota Raja with an almost 30 percent Indian electorate, MIC candidate S. Murugesan only managed to garner 29,711 votes, compared to PAS-Dr Siti Mariah Mahmud’s 59,106 votes. In other words, PAS got double the votes of MIC in a strongly Indian constituency.
(C)
Kamalanathan won Hulu Selangor which is a Malay-majority area (56.8%) and having under a quarter (23.4%) Chinese electorate.
(D)
Saravanan had the most comfortable win among his compatriots. His Tapah electorate consisted of Malay 46.5%, Chinese 27.9%, Indian 13.3% and Lain-lain 12.4%. Lucky for him, in his constituency there were not enough Chinese voters to cause him to lose while the significant number of Orang Asli (12.4%) gave him an edge.
The statistics above reveal an interesting bit of trivia, i.e. the BN now depends on Orang Asli votes in order to scrape through aside from collecting the Malay kampung votes, the Felda votes and the rural Sabah and Sarawak votes.
I hope this pattern of voter distribution (BN=kampung coalition) sinks into the consciousness of the complacent Umno war room.
To restate it plainly for Umno — You. Lost. The. Popular vote.
You lost the urban vote. What carried you through was the Utusan readership and demography.
The J-Star‘s 5.63m audience
In our previous analysis of selected mixed seats in GE13, we found that for the first time PAS had made inroads into the semi-urban constituencies buoyed by DAP-Chinese support while PKR fared better than the BN components in the middle band (between 30-60% Chinese) seats.
The GE13 results in the peninsula also indicate that the non-Malay BN component parties are just window-dressing to provide the BN with a multi-racial facade.
BN in West Malaysia is essentially numero uno-Umno, and Umno only. The rest don’t count anymore.
Umno (88) and PBB (14) – these two parties alone – together total 102 seats is which just 10 seats short of a simple majority in our 222-seat Parliament.
Two-race political system
The Chinese were like a cat on a hot tin roof over Utusan‘s ‘Apa lagi Cina mahu?’
You can read the ex-Information Minister cum former Utusan group editor Tan Sri Zainuddin Maidin on the post-GE13 developments.
Zamkata:
- Sikap ‘prejudice’ ketua pengarang akhbar The Star terhadap Utusan Malaysia
- Cina pulaukan pimpinan Melayu, Melayu pulaukan barangan Cina. Salahkah?
- Ketua pengarang The Star pertahankan pengundi pembangkang
- The Star anggap Melayu “banyak bodoh punya orang”
Before polling day, the Asli think tank had organized a debate between Chua Soi Lek and Lim Guan Eng in Mandarin. The topic of their debate was “Chinese at a crossroads: Is the two-party system becoming a two-race system?”
The Chinese indeed crossed the Rubicon in GE13. Surely you can answer for yourself the question whether we are currently landed in a two-race system, right?
So, the next stage is: Are we heading towards a two-religion system?
To see a slide show of Churches Burned In Egypt, go to the Huffington Post article ‘Egypt’s Churches Targeted By Morsi Supporters As Violence Continues‘ (22 Aug 2013).
Something for Umno to think about
Where is the country’s biggest and strongest political party taking Malaysia?
It whipped up hysteria over the crime rate and irrationally scapegoated the poor among the Indian community who are the bigger victims of social inequality.
BN has already totally lost the Chinese.
BN has also lost the Indian middle class, the Indian professionals and the Indian Christians.
Look at how Umno is treating the non-English speaking and Hindu Indians. Umno seems intent on sending the Tamilians back into Pakatan’s arms.
Muslims, Christians fight over kalimah Allah
If the Muslim-Christian schism should worsen, BN might lose the native Sabah and Sarawak non-Muslim votes.
I’m not sure if the Malays realise this or not but in your backlash against the Chinese (observe the proliferation of derogatory nicknames applied on the Chinese community of late) vote swing, you have radicalized.
Newton’s Third Law of Motion says that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The action of the Chinese going 90 percent to the opposition has invoked a reaction among the Malays to the far right.
It doesn’t help that the Chinese are being led by evangelistas. Dr Mahathir Mohamad in his Gelang Patah caution has already warned against religious conflict and a possible racial confrontation erupting. In Malaysia, race and religion overlap.
With this in mind, why are the Umno politicians still sabre-rattling? What do the Umno members and supporters really want?
Helen Ang 
My SIL is a Sabahan a Kadazan Catholic (convert). Rest of her family members remained Christians. Cucu sama2 manja dengan Atok Muslims and Atok Christians. We bond well not only strongly as family members but as BUMIPUTRAS of this beloved country. Tara apa apa bah.. ini situasi adalah perkara biasa diSabah. Sabahans are damn proud of their State so I imagine the same with Sarawakians.
You go to Sabah yang dengar cakap bunyi bising macam ayam baru bertelor, one definitely will know ini mai dari Semenanjung punya keluarga as most Sabahans speak fluently in Bahasa Kebangsaan.
Yang gedit2 are mainly the Semenanjung newly converted decendants of Pendatangs who try to make use of religion for their political gains.
Orang SABAH tak TAMAK HALOBA
Serumpun sejak ribuan tahun!
Inilah orang yng tak sedar diri atau yang tak pandai buat kesimpulan yang tepat.
You see your family together-gether, happy go lucky and you think all Sabah like that?
Shit, I wish I were so deluded.
Just google the words ‘crime’+’Sabah’ and you get millions of hits.
You think you are safe? ‘Safe’ is a word, a perception. You can be among thieves, murderers and rapists. As long as they leave you alone, you are technically ‘safe’. But why should they leave you alone if you make yourself an easy target? Drive in Merc or wear Louis Vuitton or a slutty dress that cries out ‘please look at my fair-skinned boobs and panties’? Of course they target you. No wonder the chin(k) is afraid of crime, they are the main targets!
I try hard to find more crime stats in Malaysia. But I am sure the police keep their cards close to their chests. Every time a stat is released both parties use it to politicise the issue.
Kamu tinggal Sabah berapa lama or merely asyik main google saja ke? Badru brought in Zizah and almost got kicked by her whole family.. see how fast she cornered back into the arms of UMNO?
Orang Bumiputera Sabah dan Sarawak walaupun ada bukan Islam, tetapi mereka tetap daripada rumpun Melayu. Bukannya pendatang macam bangsa Cina.
Jadi analisa Helen yang mengatakan Bumiputera bukan Islam akan menjauhi BN agak sedikit lari dari sasaran.
Pada pendapat saya, dalam perlembagaan perlu disebut sebagai Melayu Islam dan Melayu Bumiputera bagi klasifikasi bangsa peribumi.
Hanya orang-orang Melayu sendiri yang akan menjaga kebajikan bangsa-bangsanya walaupun berbeza agama.
re: “Hanya orang-orang Melayu sendiri yang akan menjaga kebajikan bangsa-bangsanya walaupun berbeza agama.”
Jadi YB Firsters (yang pakai tudung, songkok, kain sampin) dilantik DAP yang kononnya buta warna kulit dan berjanji akan menjaga kebajikan semua “Anak Bangsa Malaysia” tanpa mengira kaum sebenarnya akan mengabaikan masyarakat India miskin lah.
Ini soalan cepumas Helen. Tepuk dada tanya selera. Tak perlu analisa mendalam pun.
Why are you defending criminals? Ahh! I forgot that majority of the police are malays. Just stop the charade and admit you are racist.
The day will come when we Malays run amok….. Not on Non Bumi but on UMNO….
Does “cutting your own nose off to spite your face” RING BELL?
Simple answer — teach the chinese a lesson.
Teach the likes of Namewee and Alvivi that their kurang ajar behavior is not acceptable. Last time, such chinese made anti-Malay, anti-government jokes behind closed doors. Only Malays close to them (the ones who drank alcohol and ate pork with them) knew about their true colours. Now, all Malays know.
Question is:– how can you make a community that thinks so highly of itself become humble?
Speaking of which, Namewee sudah kencing sama Melayu la!
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/malaysia-news/namewee%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Ckara-king%E2%80%9D-irritates-utusan-yet-again
I hope those were the tudung and kopiah wearing PAS variety that Namewee pissed on. They are the biggest idiots.
The moment PR gets into power you will have PAS claiming victory and DAP crying foul! Then the whole DAP political manipulation would happen again, but by that time it would be PAS under attack, not UMNO.
Smarter UMNO men would have left Malaysian shores. Safely ensconced in their luxury London boroughs, they would just watch the news of the ensuing religious/ethnic riots, while gently sipping their cups of brandy or Chardonnay.
By humbling them by any means necessary!
Ms H. When the non-Malays were with the conventional religions of Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism etc for centuries in Tanah Melayu there was no conflict between these and the Islam religion.
Of recent origin, the new Christians who based themselves on the bongo bongo voodoo choral and dancing troupes of disparate lands came into prominence especially political prominence, we have the snowball effect of emotional conflicts with no end in sight.
The lack of wisdom and rational thoughts and accomodation for the feelings of others do not seem to worry these new Christians one wee bit. It is OK for them if they think they have this invisible armour which shields them from any harm. What about the rest of the non-new Christian population ? Every action has a reaction !
A new breed of Christian extremists are radicalizing the people bordering to religious/racial conflicts!
Suddenly bila undang-undang tidak menyebelahi mereka, mereka mahu undang-undang yang lebih adil, mind you the very same undang-undang that had allow them to use the word, now seems bengkok sikit…
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/bahasa/article/cfm-seru-rakyat-malaysia-bentuk-undang-undang-saksama-tolak-unsur-cauvinis
“Kami mengesa semua rakyat Malaysia untuk membentuk satu sistem undang-undang yang akan memberikan kesaksamaan dan perlindungan sama rata di bawah undang-undang untuk semua rakyat Malaysia.”
Podah!
You hit the problem in the head.
UMNO leadership is darn stupid in sacrificing the future to win the present…
Just like in US 2012 elections, Romney focused on the majority whites, about 70% of Americans in his messaging and electoral calculus thinking it’s more than enough to defeat Obama’s diverse, multiracial, urban & young coalition.
On paper, it looks simple and straight-forward plan. But we now live in a fast changing world where groups segmentation based on interests, affinity, beliefs etc is a fact-of-life!
UMNO/BN forgot their slash-and-burn approach already hardened the Chinese community. Now the supremacist attitude is driving away even more Indians from 55% PR to maybe 70-80% PR next GE14.
With UMNO’s arrogant provocations on the “Kalimah Allah” issue, the next big bloc of Christian Bumiputras KDM & Iban/Bidayuh will swing next GE14 too. Already in last GE13, KDM voters swung against BN in Sabah in many seats that BN was saved only by multi-cornered fights/spoilt votes. For the Christian Bumiputras in Sarawak, the flip-flop on the 10-points compromise during Sarawak 2011 state elections will come back to haunt BN in next 2016 state elections.
Each year with more and more Sabah/Sarawak natives working and studying in Peninsular are making this a national issue already. So the “Kalimah Allah” issue had to be solved to cover the whole country now.
Finally, among the Malays community by some estimates there’s nearly 1 million Shiite (Syiah) followers and family members.
By wholesale victimizing and demonizing them, UMNO basically burnt their bridges with this growing group among the majority Malays…
Also, PBB and UMNO Sabah’s Muslim Bumiputras voters base are much more tolerant and moderate due to centuries of multi-faith, multicultural environment in Borneo due to common intermarriages in many native families there. So pushing the hardline, conservative Malay-Muslim strategy is not a vote-winner in Borneo.
Then take-out the hard-core PAS/PKR Malay support, say at 30% of the community that will never vote for UMNO/BN.
So after subtracting all those voting-bloc losses from the UMNO slash-and-burn, hardline Malay-Muslim strategy, is it any wonder that UMNO/BN is looking at a shrinking, narrow base of support.
Come GE14, do you also think many first-time new young Malay voters will be attracted to a majority ethnic bloc like Romney’s? Or they will flock to a diverse, urban multiracial coalition ala-Obama’s?
~ Anak Pasir Gudang
Thanks for your write-up. You have put the situation across very well. Better than I have!
LIKE+
Anak Pasir Gudang
‘Finally, among the Malays community by some estimates there’s nearly 1 million Shiite (Syiah) followers and family members.’
Ye ke, mana dapat figure ni? Ada link?
‘So pushing the hardline, conservative Malay-Muslim strategy is not a vote-winner in Borneo.’
Can you explain why they (Borneo natives) can tolerate PKR&DAP alliance with PAS, should pushing the hardline will be pushing away these Borneo natives? Isn’t PAS had made it clear on its hardline stance on Islam, even more so than UMNO?
Care to comments on hardline stance taken by Christian extremists lately in this country? How would you think the average Muslims would react?
This reply can’t be more inaccurate. Let me enumerate the ways.
Poor Analogy.
– The republicans are represented by a generally mono-ethnic group that dominates the US economy. Their members on average are wealthier, more educated, more cunning and more politically connected. Therefore, on average, they are more like the CHINESE in Malaysia, rather than like members UMNO.
Unsubstantiated claims
– 1 million Shiite (Syiah) followers and family members. Where the fuck do you get such figures? Been reading too much facebook have we?
Totally incorrect information
– Even total opposition cock-suckers like TMI acknowledged that young Malay voters are SICKENED by the behaviour of the Chinese are returning in droves to UMNO.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/bn-made-young-malay-voters-fear-us-say-opposition-lawmakers
Who’s the VICTIM? And who’s the supremacist?
– Look around you. Are you blind? Who owns the factories, the retail shops? Who is living in big houses and driving big cars? Check the statistics . Malays are still behind!
Pegi la Anak Pasir Gudang. Kalau dah suka tetek putih pompuan cina (kononnye macam pau) mengaku aje la. Tak payah nak kelentong orang lain. Atau pun awak ni jenis yang suka hisap kotay busuk yang tak disunat ke?
Please continue to push your UMNO Bahagian leaders to think like you and if possible publicize it everyday in TV/FB!
UMNO’s enemies will love you for it…
Bodoh sombong.
Re. : “Pegi la…..”
Yang Lorek Itu Kendi
Yang Merah Itu Saga
Yang Molek Itu Budi
Yang Indah Itu Bahasa
I am an Ultra-Malay-Racist after PRU13. Melayu itu dipandang pada sopan santun dan budi bahasanya. It is a reminder to myself actually too as Helen can attest to it, based on some of my postings that she either edited or ignored altogether.
Re : UMNO leadership is darn stupid in sacrificing the future to win the present…
and your contribution(s) to the past and current is/are?
Re. “UMNO/BN forgot their slash-and-burn approach already hardened the Chinese community. Now the supremacist attitude is driving away even more Indians from 55% PR to maybe 70-80% PR next GE14.”
and the Chinese have played it better in this game right during PRU13 with their conniving, selfish and greedy attitude.????
Re. Now the supremacist attitude is driving away even more Indians from 55% PR to maybe 70-80% PR next GE14.?
I can sense that you are an Indian from the tone. Be frank about it and nobody will judge you as it is your right to say it the way you see it.
Re. “So after subtracting all those voting-bloc losses from the UMNO slash-and-burn, hardline Malay-Muslim strategy, is it any wonder that UMNO/BN is looking at a shrinking, narrow base of support.”
UMNO may and may not have hit rock bottom, but coming PRU14 there will consolidation among the hardcore sunni Malay (PAS and UMNO included).
1. We have seen that during PRK in Kuala Besut, Terenganu with higher majority than that of PRU1’s..
2. The fact that Azizan Razak the former Kedah MB was asked (my word is “force to” ) to retain his seat despite his earlier plan to vacate due to the operation (both leg being amputated) is sign that the Malay support for BN/UMNO is increasing in Kedah.
3. Whether UMNIO/BN like it or not the 1 million Shiite (Syiah) followers and family members. has never and will never vote UMNO/BN. It is given, just like the hardcore PAS members and former Al Arqam (but still active) members.
4. With UMNO’s arrogant provocations on the “Kalimah Allah” issue, the next big bloc of Christian Bumiputras KDM & Iban/Bidayuh will swing next GE14 too.
5. Zulkify Nordin and Ibrahim Ali’s loss in PRU13 were due to the fact the Malays majority in the Shah Alam and Pasir Putih; I would personally say miscalculated/oblivious to the Chinese ‘s game plan hence they rejected both for their radical view. I believe there are still hope for these two seats, with the right candidates in PRU14. Plus the UMNO/BN’s inroad progress in Kelatan is another positive sign.
Please get your fact right. The Kalimah Allah is permitted for Christian Bumiputras KDM & Iban/Bidayuh and it is never an issue.
As for Serawakian, they had chosen DAP in the last PRN Serawak, All Chinese and Christian seats won by DAP, so it is already done.
Re. Come GE14, do you also think many first-time new young Malay voters will be attracted to a majority ethnic bloc like Romney’s? Or they will flock to a diverse, urban multiracial coalition ala-Obama’s?
And do you think all of them will vote for Pakatan? There is 50-50 chance here. But looking at what happen in PRU13 with the Chines-Tsunami, I would say majority of them would think twice to vote for Pakatan as the trust is no longer with them i,e color blind poltics.
Re. Malaysia vs. US
Both have different demographic and different issues to address. It is like comparing apple to orange. The American voters are more mature since they vote based on issue and not along race line (although black and white vote is still a significant factors). On that note, if they want to cheat they would just like what Bush Junior did i.e. The Florida Ballot Debacle.
In PRU13, the DAP had played the perception battle well and they succeeded. The Chinese is considered done for them. But one thing for sure is that they failed to deliver Putrajaya to the Chinese as promised (without the Malay votes, while Indian votes are not strong and significant enough for them to carry it through).
That is why the Jerusubang congregation is going all out with their Muslim-Malay-Centric mission.
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4. With UMNO’s arrogant provocations on the “Kalimah Allah” issue, the next big bloc of Christian Bumiputras KDM & Iban/Bidayuh will swing next GE14 too.
Please get your fact right. The Kalimah Allah is permitted for Christian Bumiputras KDM & Iban/Bidayuh and it is never an issue.
Legitimizing the issue by bringing the Borneo native Christians into the picture. Funnily they can’t even speak BM right, now they also kiasu and wants to become arabs instead! Boleh ke sebut perkataan arab? Lidah tak bergulung ke?
What kind of people are they? These Christian extremists must be exposed!
+1.
But so far, only the Chinese in Sabah bought into their lies. The Christian Bumis buat tak tau aje.
After Yeo Bee Yin’s dissaterous Hari Raya party, let us what she is doing in Sarawak.
Everyone knows DAP is trying to get into the inner lands of Sarawak to spread their poison. Even Baru Bian had expressed his reservations with the Evangelist onslaught.
And as much as social media is important moving forward, they are not a good basis to find out what’s going on on the ground.
LOL
Exactly what I wrote in my reply.
Dia orang ni tak baca paper ke agaknya?
Bukan tak baca, rasanya diorang tau tapi saje nak spin :-)
Politics is about assembling a winning coalition.
UMNO is losing the game by just focusing on targetting the 51% Malay majority population.
The hardcore PAS membership will never vote for UMNO because from their foundation since 1955, they have always been discriminated on the grassroots by the UMNO establishment. Through denial of welfare assistance, scholarship, contracts, opportunities etc, the grassroots PAS members & their families have been through it all. That’s why even in the smallest kampungs or FELDAs, PAS supporters have always lived a life separate from the rest.
Only after Tsunami GE12 happened when PAS made big breakthrough in Peninsular, did UMNO establishment started treating PAS grassroots a little better for their own political calculations. But too much hurt has happened over two generations to be easily forgotten!
That’s why in every GE since Merdeka, there’s always at least 30% Malays voting against UMNO/BN/Perikatan. Even those days when you had Tunku Abdul Rahman, Abdul Razak, Mahathir, Razaleigh, Anwar etc together in the same party!
Malays has never voted 100% for UMNO ever.
Just like there’s no 100% Muslim unity because of differences among Sunni/Syiah/Wahhabi/Sufi etc.
So PAS/UMNO combination is syiok sendiri myth la…
There’s 11% Bumiputra Sabah/Sarawak, where Christian population is majority in Sarawak. Most of Christian Bumiputra and mixed seats still in PBB/BN hands. So big Iban/Bidayuh swing in GE14 means BN Sarawak is gone…
Check out the Sarawak electoral map before you tembak sukahati.
re: “targetting the 51% Malay majority population”
Closer to 54% – 56% ‘Malays’ and there’s a blurring of lines like Melanau (Taib Mahmud’s suku kaum). Some demographic stats include Sarawak pribumi Muslims as Malay.
In Sarawak, Malays are classified as Malays but Melanau is under Sarawak Bumiputra grouping. Most are Muslims but there are Melanau Christians too. So by definition, Melanau is not exclusively Muslims.
The percentage of Malay populace is moot in the elections. It doesn’t matter whether they are 40 or 50 or 60, it’s how many constituencies they form that counts.
So, even if it’s 51%, if they still make up for a good 100 constituencies, then UMNO is correct in their strategy – moving towards far right.
Due to last redelineation for GE12 & GE13, there’s 119 Malay-majority seats with 78 rurals, 27 semi-urbans & 14 urbans.
With SPR due for another redelineation exercise end-2013, the proportion of rural Malay seats should dropped and more urban & semi-urban Malay seats should increase. Latest 2010 data urbanization rate in Malaysia is 71%. So generally rural areas are emptying out or stagnating as more people migrate to urban areas for work, study & opportunity. In Peninsular, the urbanization rate is easily 80-85%.
According to the Constitution, without 2/3 majority approval in Parliament, SPR cannot increase the numbers of MPs. They can only adjust seat boundaries to reflect population growth and density.
So in GE14 expect heavy losses of rural Malay seats and high number of urban & semi-urban Malay seats to be created!
UMNO lost badly in urban & semi-urban Malay seats in GE13.
In case, you have the time to check out the statistics below:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/two-thirds-of-pakatan-ge13-wins-in-multi-racial-seats-research-shows
~ Anak Pasir Gudang
You said:
“So in GE14 expect heavy losses of rural Malay seats and high number of urban & semi-urban Malay seats to be created!
UMNO lost badly in urban & semi-urban Malay seats in GE13.”
Are you sure about this?
Creating urban or semi-urban seats could only be from the current urban and semi-urban seats, delineating it in such a way that, looking at the results from GE13, a seat won by PR could be divided into two seats, with the new seat populated by those who voted for BN.
You obviously are a cut and paste person, and a reader who take what you read as is, without the need to analyze the the feasibility and truth behind the said articles.
Due to last redelineation for GE12 & GE13, there’s 119 Malay-majority seats with 78 rurals, 27 semi-urbans & 14 urbans. From GE13 for these Malay majority seats:
Out of 78 rurals seats: BN 66, PR 12.
Out of 27 semi-urbans: BN 12, PR 15.
Out of 14 urbans: BN 2, PR 12.
When SPR redelineate based on population growth and density, semi-urban seat will change to urban and rapidly growing dense semi-urban area will eat up rural space, so more rural seats will transform to semi-urban ones. So the number of rural seats will decline alot. Total number of seats will be unchanged because SPR need 2/3 Parliament approval for increase in MP seats. The process of redelineation will be closely watched for extreme sign of boundary changes. Final changes need to be approved by Parliament.
For example, Kuala Selangor used to be rural but because of Guthrie highway, university colleges and rapid housing developments expanding from Sungai Buloh and Shah Alam, Kuala Selangor is already semi-urban for GE13. DUN seats in Kuala Selangor used to be hardcore UMNO is now divided 50-50.
For those seats that used to be semi-urban like Gombak but now fully urban, UMNO used to be very strong here. But now UMNO lost badly in these type of seats. So urbanization and demography are important factors in GE14 onwards.
Selangor, Penang & Johor states have the highest population growth. So i expect these states will add the most seats in the next SPR redelineation.
~ Anak Pasir Gudang
You are right UMNO will never get 100% Malay vote but DAP and PKR wouldn’t get 100 chinese and indian vote .
Question …if UMNO let go NEP do you think chinese and indian will vote for BN or will Malay totally ‘tinggalkan’ UMNO .
Which one is worst case scenario?
re: “DAP and PKR wouldn’t get 100 chinese and indian vote”
DAP can get 99% of the Chinese vote.
BN may lose the Indian vote at the rate that Zahid Hamidi is going.
Why not if Zahid can bring Malay vote as much as indian vote that BN lose.
There was a silent Malay vote swing back to BN in GE13 probably on the sense of the Chinese shift.
Now the Chinese tsunami is confirmed.
Of course Umno can radicalize in order to bring in more Malay votes and also more Muslim votes. But please count the cost of this approach?
DAP played the Politics of Hate to bring home almost all the Chinese vote and the Christian vote in the peninsula. Where has this landed us?
If Umno wants to play the Race and Religion card, the of course Umno definitely holds the better hand. Umno can maintain power in GE14 but what about GE15 and beyond, with the urbanization trend and The J-Star canvassing as I’ve pointed out?
Kalau sesat pulang ke pangkal jalan. Reflect on the founder of Umno Datuk Onn Jaafar and the high standards that he set, and his noble aspirations.
Helen,
Sometimes, the only way to effectively counter a good strategy is to counter it in the same way.
DAP, as you have repeatedly said, plays the politics of hatred and it got them the Chinese votes en bloc. While UMNO may not get the Malay votes in the same drive, they could at least get the bulk, which is more than enough for GE14.
As for the future GE’s, different strategies may be in placed. While it is always good to look forward, in the case of politics, it is best to strategize one election at a time.
An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind (quote).
Politics of Hate for Politics of Hate …
All is fair and love and war, as they say.
Helen
Ini bukan game love or hate ini masalah jenayah . Minggu lepas ada seminar menenai jenayah dimana Zahid menyatakan 90% geng kongsi gelap melibatkan indian tetapi tak ada siapa pertikai kenyataan tersebut sebaliknya indian salahkan BN .
Adakah SOP polis harus berubah berdasar kaum mana yang nak ditangkap. katakan lah 5 penjenayah adalah Melayu adakah indian akan buat bising ?
masih ingat kes Bentong Kali disekitar tahun 90an .Bentong kali terkenal dengan sikap ganas tapi semasa operasi masih ada yang salahkan polis semasa kejadian tembak menembak . kes kali ini pun agak serupa dengan kes Bentong Kali.
For me governance is a serious business so BN has to show seriousness in handling crimes ,corruption ,wealth and harmony .
quote “BN may lose the Indian vote at the rate that Zahid Hamidi is going.”, unquote.
It’s unfortunate that the “criminals” targetted by Zahid and the police now happen to be largely Indians.
Are you suggesting Zahid and the police should look the other way if the criminals are Indians, so that BN will not lose the Indian votes?
It’s time we looked at the criminals for what they did wrong, and not on their skin colours, Helen!
re: “Are you suggesting Zahid and the police should look the other way if the criminals are Indians …”
Are you suggesting that the procedure adopted by the police in the Sg Nibong raid reflects the best practices?
re: “It’s time we looked at the criminals for what they did wrong, and not on their skin colours, Helen!”
It’s time Malaysia looked at its socio-economic policy and why so many of the Indian skin colour end up in crime. There is always an explanation behind the statistics.
Helen – In my opinion you have the unhealthy habit of answering a question with another question.
I take it that you don’t have the answer to my question or unwilling to speak what’s in your mind, so you avoid answering my question buy putting up another question to me to give me a message that I should not ask a question to you if I can’t answer your question.
If that’s the way you want to play the ‘debate’ game, so be it.
I thought you could muster intelligent responses questions posed to you.
Saying the gangsters had no other way to cari makan is tantamount to insults to every single honest Indians whom cari makan like average Malaysians, without resorting to vice and crime!
I for one want to see Malaysia to be governed by an ultra-Malay as the PM.
After the Chinese tsunami of GE 13, I as a Malay has realized that my beloved country is being threatened with onslaughts from all angles by DAP Chinese. I believe many Malays whether they are in UMNO, PAS or PKR have the same sentiment as I do and that’s also the reason why we want Najib to step down and be replaced by an ultra Malay as the PM.
At the current political scenarios, I don’t give a damn what will happen to other races in Malaysia like the Chinese and Indians, after all we didn’t invite them here, the British did.
As far as YB Zahid Hamidi is concerned, I think he is one of the few in UMNO who still got guts and I highly support all his actions including the call for that Hindraff fellow (I don’t want to know his name) to step down from cabinet ministry.
‘I don’t give a damn what will happen to other races in Malaysia like the Chinese and Indians, after all we didn’t invite them here, the British did.’
And we’ve been blame for agreeing to Jus Soli!
Tunku, Tunku, apa dah jadi dengan tanahair kita?
It used to be the Chinese who were in the same position (gangsters) as the Indians now. Times were different then, but the enforcement methods have not really changed much. The difference is, the Chinese then did not blame others nor demanding ‘rights’ from the government. But the Indian community’s social situation is different. I agree that they do indeed need help.
There’s a difference between ‘criminals’ and ‘gangsters’. Perhaps the ‘solutions’ of yesteryears are no longer appropriate today.
Melayu pun ada yang jadi gangsters, tapi mereka tak salahkan kerajaan bla, bla, bla kononnya jadi mangsa keadaan dan sebagainya.
Jadi baik atau jahat adalah pilihan peribadi masing-masing. Semua orang kerja cari duit, tetapi berapa kerat yang memilih jual dadah, ambil rasuah atau jadi pelacur untuk dapat duit?
Ini semua pilihan peribadi. Sikit-sikit nak main sentimen mangsa keadaan, state tak tolong dsb, susahlah nak maju macam ni!
re: ” Sikit-sikit nak main sentimen mangsa keadaan, state tak tolong dsb, susahlah nak maju macam ni!”
Kalau tak perlukan state tolong Melayu dengan rancangan-rancangan pembangunan, tak payah lah Perkasa selalu meroyan.
Hak Pribumi sudah termaktub dalam Perlembagaan Persekutuan sebab baik hati bagi Jus Soli.
Ini siapa pun tak boleh nak bangkang!
Tiada disebut tentang “hak” dalam Perlembagaan Persekutuan. Yang dimaktubkan ialah istilah “kedudukan istimewa” dalam Perkara 153.
Kuota 60 peratus yang dituntut Perkasa juga tidak termaktub dalam Perlembagaan Persekutuan.
Sebaliknya yang disebut ialah apa-apa perkadaran yang “difikirkan munasabah” oleh Yang di-Pertuan Agong.
Sememangnya munasabah. Bantuan kepada Pribumi kurang. Belum cukup. Belum menyeluruh.
Helen, Kalau tak ada Jus Soli, Pribumi pun tak payah pening kepala nak kongsi, ye dak?
Jikalau tuntutan kuota 60% dianggap anda sebagai “sememangnya munasabah” berserta peratusan ini dilihat masih “belum cukup” dan “belum menyeluruh”
kenapa pula tadi anda telah berkata bahawa orang Melayu tidak pun mengharapkan bantuan kerajaan (?) … yakni berbanding dengan
golongan India yang kononnya menyalahkan kerajaan tidak menghulurkan bantuan dan,
mengikut kata anda, pengabaian ini telah digunakan sebagai alasan oleh kaum India bahawa mereka terjebak ke dalam kancah gengsterisme adalah gara-gara kerana tidak menerima apa-apa pertolongan daripada kerajaan.
Helen,
I googled your name and found this article:-
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Perkasa buat laporan polis artikel hina Islam, Melayu
09/08/2010 6:33pm
KUALA LUMPUR 9 Ogos – Pertubuhan Pribumi Perkasa Malaysia (Perkasa) hari ini membuat laporan polis terhadap penulis blog Central for Policy Initiatives (CPI), Helen Ang, yang menulis artikel berbentuk perkauman serta mempertikaikan hak, agama Islam dan keistimewaan orang Melayu di negara ini.
Ketua Wira Perkasa Malaysia, Arman Azha Abu Hanifah yang membuat laporan itu di Balai Polis Sentul pada pukul 2 petang, berkata Ang antara lain didakwa menulis artikel yang menghina Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Mizan Zainal Abidin serta menimbulkan kebencian terhadap baginda.
“Kami dengan ini menggesa kerajaan melalui pihak berkuasa mengenakan tindakan tegas terhadap penulis artikel berkenaan kerana ia dilihat akan membangkitkan perasaan benci masyarakat Malaysia yang berbilang kaum terhadap kedudukan istimewa Islam dan bumiputera di negara ini.
“Kami berpendapat kandungan artikel itu juga mampu memecahbelahkan kaum di negara ini selain menggugat keselamatan negara kerana ia berunsur hasutan serta mengundang ketegangan, katanya kepada pemberita selepas membuat laporan itu. – Bernama
Artikel Penuh: http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2010&dt=0809&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Terkini&pg=bt_32.htm#ixzz2dBgIoVrl
© Utusan Melayu (M) Bhd
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So, you are one of those who question the Malay rights and privileges as contained in the constitution. And yet most of your readers and commentators on your blog are Malays/Muslims. How ironic! Be honest with us! Where actually do you stand, Helen?
Despite the lacks of, it is still ‘life goes on’ for the Malays! Your commentators here (yours truly included) and Perkasa may appear to be whining about the lacks of it, but didn’t you notice, having so many kawan Melayu and all, that it is business as usual for the average Malays. Urbanites or Kampungs folks, we still carry on with our life. Despite the lacks of it. Despite being lied and robbed upon by certain political figures and all, we still carry on with our lives.
We did not stop being what we are simply because of the keciciran, or blaming others, now that we have to kongsi almost everything with everyone else,ever since the Jus Soli was put in place. we did not resort to gangsterism simply because of that fact that we are, at least most of us being neglected upon. Despite of that we still being the tidak apa, acting bodo, take it overtly easy aka Malas Malays.
Despite that and the fact that time and again the non-Pribumis kept complaining about the fact that it is not fair for them waking up to the fact of the special positions of the Pribumis inked by our fore fathers?!
Then what about us, the Pribumis, having to grow up all our lives being at constant ridiculed of that very special position, despite the lacks of, or irregardless the fact that we have not benefited from the so called special positions being stamp on us all?!
Despite that and the lacks of it, we don’t go around town shooting people and blames the states for the vice we had committed!
A lot of Malays had benefited and helped via the special positions, if we must, but lets not forget that a lot more Malays had been neglected and left to kais pagi makan pagi right until ironically, some TVs come in to the rescue!
Well that’s special position of the Malays for you, if you haven’t notice that already.
Let me answer for Helen,
She is Chinese. Not a BN-Supporter only BN-Friendly and still depending on issues.
At this phase of her life and due to the current political scenario, she is taking a leave of absence from being an ardent DAP supporter/follower. The turning point of her said decision is over Kampung Buah Pala incident after DAP/Pakatan took over Pulau Pinang. The decision will be reversed upon demise of all evangelistas’ political career within DAP (I think).
She is still a true blue “Cina Malaysia” and will continue to fight for any “Cina Malaysia” course where it deems fit. So don’t expect her to be donning tudung and baju kurung, and/or surau amd masjid going like that of Mama Dapster of Jerusubang; or Puasa and Sahur like OKM during Ramadhan.
At this stage you can safely say, she is among the 5% or less remaining Cina Malaysia who support BN.
Her followers are 95% pro-establishment and 100% UMNO followers/members. The UMNO followers/members will support Helen 100% if she writes nice thing about Islam/Malay/UMNO/BN but will “hentam” her 1000% if she writes otherwise.
re: “an ardent DAP supporter/follower”
:D No lah, I’ve never been an “ardent” fan of the party. However I did vote for DAP in all previous elections until GE13 where for the first time I voted BN.
A vote is a vote. We exercise it every 5 years. A Malay living in Bandar Tun Razak might vote the MCA candidate b’cos of his support for the BN. It doesn’t mean that the Malay guy has anything to do with MCA.
It is traditional for Cina Bandar to vote DAP just like it is traditional for Melayu kerja gomen to vote Umno. This voting pattern for both Chinese and Malay is simply going with the tide.
However when I voted BN in GE13, it was going against the strong Chinese current and had to be a conscious decision compared to the previous times I voted opposition when it was such an automatic choice.
Helen is living proof– never trust Chinese.
PAS is stupid to form an alliance with one! I am sure in Prophet’s time that would mean instant schism from the main believers.
PAS’ allegiance with DAP is like sleeping with the enemy to spite your family. DAP is enjoying every second of that internal strife, and Helen wishes to be at the very nexus of that strife.
What does that say about Helen? She’s just a DAP supporter wearing a cloak of invisibility.
And for those anti special kedudukan whiners, I must stress, despite the lacks of it, despite that there no guarantee that me or my generations will get to enjoy it in perpetuity, it is not fair for us all also to wake up and made to realized that we have to share it with the rest of you. It was inked by both our fore fathers. We accept it. So you should start be accepting it too.
When you start questioning my right, I may want to start questioning yours too!
Helen,
I thought of replying to your post but decided to reply to Anak Pasir Gudang’s post instead, but the gist of what I wanted to reply to you is also contained in this reply.
I will, however, only reply to the ones that touched on Sabah.
In essence, and generally, I agree with his opinion that UMNO is alienating the rest, but only to a certain extent.
“With UMNO’s arrogant provocations on the “Kalimah Allah” issue, the next big bloc of Christian Bumiputras KDM & Iban/Bidayuh will swing next GE14 too. Already in last GE13, KDM voters swung against BN in Sabah in many seats that BN was saved only by multi-cornered fights/spoilt votes.”
I highly doubt this will be the case. There will be a swing, of course, but it has nothing to do with the ‘Kalimah Allah’ issue. So other non-UMNO Bumiputra parties – especially PBS – are still with BN, the rural and semi-urban seats will still be won by the incumbent.
Most of the swing in GE13 from amongst the KDM benefited PKR but PKR itself will not be as strong as it is now come GE14. Even with the Chinese constituencies, come GE14, not all will be won by PR.
“Each year with more and more Sabah/Sarawak natives working and studying in Peninsular are making this a national issue already. So the “Kalimah Allah” issue had to be solved to cover the whole country now”
Not true. They are only making noise in the Peninsular, not in Sabah. (I don’t know about Sarawak but I reckon it’s the same) Back home, the Christians have never had the issue of non-allowance. DAP and PKR tried to make something out of it during GE13 but the Christian Bumis couldn’t care less.
“Each year with more and more Sabah/Sarawak natives working and studying in Peninsular are making this a national issue already. So the “Kalimah Allah” issue had to be solved to cover the whole country now”
Again, not true. Yes, we are more tolerant but way before the Malayans were foaming in the mouth with this Muslim vs Christian thing, we already experienced it in the mid-80’s, and none of us want to get into that again.
I am pretty confident that it would not affect the Muslim Bumis in Sabah and Sarawak. Our fellow Muslims in Malaya could move to the right, but we are going to remain in the center.
‘s all.
Erratum
This reply: Again, not true. Yes, we are more tolerant but way before the Malayans were foaming in the mouth with this Muslim vs Christian thing, we already experienced it in the mid-80′s, and none of us want to get into that again.”
Is for this: “Also, PBB and UMNO Sabah’s Muslim Bumiputras voters base are much more tolerant and moderate due to centuries of multi-faith, multicultural environment in Borneo due to common intermarriages in many native families there. So pushing the hardline, conservative Malay-Muslim strategy is not a vote-winner in Borneo.”
Dear Sabahan18,
Are you kidding me?!
Most KDM community voted against BN but because of multicornered fights with STAR/SAPP playing spoilers most times, BN was saved in the KDM and mixed areas.
PBS President Pairin & PBRS President Kurup were two big lucky losers. Check out the Sabah electoral map la.
Again if you think Sabah Bumiputra Christians couldn’t care less, then congrats to your reading on the mood of the ground.
But SIB and Catholic churches are among the active Sabahans on the “Kalimah Allah” issue. So maybe you’re more typical Sabahan than those church members…
The main reason for example why SIB started establishing presence in Peninsular is due to those big numbers of Sabah/Sarawak Bumiputras moving to work and study there decades ago. The migration is still continuing each year due to better opportunities in Peninsular.
Anak Pasir Gudang,
Ko ni bahlol ke apa?
Why don’t you check again the results. The KDM swing was in semi-urban and Urban areas, not the inner areas.
Pairin won both seats he contested lah! And Kurup won in Pensiangan! What cock are you talking about?
Seriously, if you want to spin, make sure you get your facts right. You sound like the DAP vernacubengs who go around in my State and start spreading lies and half-truths.
Your thoughts on SIB and Sabah Christians are taken out of a DAP leaflet in trying to hoodwink majority of the Sabahan Christians to go against the ‘Muslim government’ in both the Federal and State levels.
Laughable.
terima kasih Sabahan18 for putting things into context! Christians extremist adalah musuh nombor satu negara!
Average Christians, Average Muslims, Average Hindus, Average Buddhists dan lain-lain penganut agama yang tidak extermists, patut bersatu hati untuk menolak politik sempit VERNACUBENGS(I like!) who go around the country trying to start civil wars ala Syria and Egypt!
Dear Sabahan18,
Takpa eventhough you called me “bahlol” in your posting, just in case you don’t have access or time to check your own info:
http://www.spr.gov.my
http://www.undi.info
For Sabah, there’s 4 BN MPs and 8 ADUNs seats that were won because of multi-corner fights. Those are mostly in KDM areas, suburban and rural.
In rural Keningau, PBS President Pairin got 15,818; STAR 11,900; PKR 7,825. So multi-corner fight saved Pairin. As Sabahan you know this is his last term since he was forced to stay on to fight this GE13.
In rural Pensiangan, PBRS President Kurup got 9,467; PKR 7,723; STAR 3,554. So multi-corner fight saved Kurup.
Also, in alot of KDM & mixed seats, the support for BN among older voters in Saluran 1&2 is 90-95%!
I’m sure you can confirm this fact with your UMNO sources.
Come GE14, when there are more new, younger voters and older voters passed away, the swing of KDM voters against UMNO/BN maybe be bigger…
So no need to call people names.
If you want to help UMNO in Sabah, be smart with facts and information.
~ Anak Pasir Gudang
Anak Pasir Gudang,
I called you bahlol not referring to you as a person but to your thoughts and how you frame your comments.
I’m still confused, what are you trying to say here? You said Pairin and Kurup lost, and I replied that they didn’t.
You then come up with a scenario where you show that they won because of the multi-cornered fights. But you failed to show the other side of the coin, i.e. where PR won because of other independents.
Also, if you analyze further – and not just parrot what DAP is saying – you would see that the biggest spoiler in the said seats is STAR. Now, you tell me, do you think Gapur will join hands with PR if there’s nothing in it for him? Do you think he trusts Anwar and DAP?
You seriously don’t know anything about what happened in my state. All you do is put links that are only relevant if you don’t apply rationale thinking into them.
All these conjectures about the young doing a vernacubeng-type of en mass voting is nothing but a political poly by the Evangelists in DAP.
This is what I mean by being a ‘bahlol.’
Hi Sabahan18,
Again there’s no need to call people “bahlol” in terms of person ke, pemikiran ke. It’s just rude.
I have worked in Sarawak/Sabah for 20 years in oil & gas upstream/downstream and even married a nice girl from Sabah. Every 3rd day of Raya we will all go over to celebrate with her families and friends there.
So i have a soft spot for all Sabahans, even you.
Hence, i don’t feel the need to tembak membuta-tuli…
When you have majority of KDM voting for anti-UMNO/BN parties, it becomes the benchmark for calculating swings in GE14. Alot of KDM voters are divided and lost to spoilers like STAR/SAPP but in GE14 the anti-BN votes will go to the strongest opposition in each seats.
Can you name me a seat where PR won, because the BN votes are divided? I cannot think of one because disgruntled BN spoilers never cost UMNO/BN in any seats.
In Selangor for example, UMNO was lucky losers in Kota Damansara & Semenyih because of multi-corner fights like Pairin & Kurup’s cases. Come next GE14, UMNO War Room will need to plan as if they lost those two seats when calculating appropriate resources and ground programs.
Hence my point regarding the combined anti-BN votes in each seats.
I feel you are someone not comfortable with data numbers or statistics because you always avoid data analysis in your past few postings.
Shouting and arguing without proper data will not help your case.
If you wanna go far up in UMNO, you need to train yourself in data analysis because the world now is very dynamic and fast-moving. There’s no room anymore for shouters but our people need thinkers and doers…
~ Anak Pasir Gudang
re: “Hence my point regarding the combined anti-BN votes in each seats.”
Good point. Must look more closely into this area.
Helen,
In semananjung, it could be taken as such. But not in Sabah.
Just because it isn’t a vote BN doesn’t mean it is a vote for the Opposition. As I replied above, Sabahans have this tendency to follow and be loyal to a person, not a party.
Unless those personalities join PR, the peoples’ vote aren’t necessarily PR’s.
Say, Jefri decided not to contest and he doesn’t openly tell his loyalists to vote for PR, the chances are they will vote for PBS. This is how we practice our politics.
In Sabah, PKR is the lead party for PR as the Chinese-majority seats are a few. With the troubles they are, and will be, facing, I seriously doubt PR would gain more ground. PKR is the catalyst of major gains for PR in Sabah.
Anak Pasir Gudang,
“Again there’s no need to call people “bahlol” in terms of person ke, pemikiran ke. It’s just rude.”
My bad. I just can’t stand stupidity, ‘s all.
“I have worked in Sarawak/Sabah for 20 years in oil & gas upstream/downstream and even married a nice girl from Sabah. Every 3rd day of Raya we will all go over to celebrate with her families and friends there.
So i have a soft spot for all Sabahans, even you.
Hence, i don’t feel the need to tembak membuta-tuli…”
Maybe. But even then, I’m sorry to tell you that you still aren’t one, and despite the years and marrying one of us, you are still yet to understand the Sabahans’ way of thinking.
“When you have majority of KDM voting for anti-UMNO/BN parties, it becomes the benchmark for calculating swings in GE14. Alot of KDM voters are divided and lost to spoilers like STAR/SAPP but in GE14 the anti-BN votes will go to the strongest opposition in each seats.”
That’s just too much literal thinking.
KDM votes will always be divided between personalities. This is what you don’t get; Sabahans are not the type to follow a party blindly, they are more loyal to the politician as opposed to the party. The only blind loyalists are the vernacubengs and even then, they very much follow where the power is, perceived or otherwise.
And again, as I previously mentioned, the local parties would not work with PR, unless there are major changes in the leadership of the latter.
And expect the trend to continue in GE14. KDM will vote for the person they are loyal to, whether it’s BN, PR, STAR et al.
“Can you name me a seat where PR won, because the BN votes are divided? I cannot think of one because disgruntled BN spoilers never cost UMNO/BN in any seats.
In Selangor for example, UMNO was lucky losers in Kota Damansara & Semenyih because of multi-corner fights like Pairin & Kurup’s cases. Come next GE14, UMNO War Room will need to plan as if they lost those two seats when calculating appropriate resources and ground programs.
Hence my point regarding the combined anti-BN votes in each seats.”
You are, again, comparing Sabah with the Peninsular. Even Musa and Shafie, who hate each other’s guts, come together when they face the same enemy.
In Sabah, BN are united and as I said, unless PBS pulls out of BN, BN will continue to govern the State. And PKR is going to implode, making it more difficult for PR to gain more grounds.
“I feel you are someone not comfortable with data numbers or statistics because you always avoid data analysis in your past few postings.
Shouting and arguing without proper data will not help your case.
If you wanna go far up in UMNO, you need to train yourself in data analysis because the world now is very dynamic and fast-moving. There’s no room anymore for shouters but our people need thinkers and doers…”
With all due respect, if you only know what I do for a living, you will be surprised that data analysis is a core part of what I do.
I love data analysis but what you’ve presented so far is nothing but numbers and totally devoid of any analysis. That is the reason why I didn’t want to entertain your so-called data. Present me a proper data and analysis and I’ll take your offer up. But if you’re going to continue to ‘analayse’ your data like how the vernacubengs do, then I won’t bother.
I’ll be waiting.
Bahlol! Tolol.! Samdol!
Limau Purut Tiga Serangkai…
“Come GE14, do you also think many first-time new young Malay voters will be attracted to a majority ethnic bloc like Romney’s? Or they will flock to a diverse, urban multiracial coalition ala-Obama’s?”…im a 1st time voter in GE14..i will vote for umno..my wife too..
Helen,
UMNO members want Najib to resign. They see (me too) that Najib is very keen to please the very group of people who wants UMNO to be toppled.
Najib has yet to grasp the idea. He appointed Hindraf guy and this dissapoint the Malays. He abolished preventive laws just to please opposition. Who is he kidding? And he surprised everyone during official birthday of Yang diPertuan Agong by announcing his intention to put SPR under Parliament.
WEAK!!!
I suddenly remember Tunku Abd Rahman when he appealed for Sultans to spare 13 treasonous Malayan who are supporting Indonesia to destabilized Tanah Melayu in the era of konfrontasi.
Certain segment in this country were embolden and went further instead of thanking the magnanimity of TAR. They feel that he was weak by bending to their demand not to execute the 13, especially the 11. But then, even if TAR did went ahead with the execution, blood might be spilled.
Can tell us more about the episode?
Re. “They see (me too) that Najib is very keen to please the very group of people who wants UMNO to be toppled.”
I have written about this before. He did what he had to do before PRU13 to garner every single vote and to save BN (which unfortunately MCA didn’t). He had given and done almost everything but they spit on his face.
Have you heard anything to that tune now? All you hear is all these controversial issues where it hits where it is supposed to hit e.g. IPTA entrance percentage, The Police Force being Taiko and no more Amaran and there are many others if you care to look through.
RE. Najib has yet to grasp the idea. He appointed Hindraf guy and this dissapoint the Malays.
He is a leader and a Muslim Leader first. He has to be fair to everyone. Indian community is in dire need for help and at this point of time they (the bottom of the pyramid who delivered the vote for UMNO/BN) don’t trust anybody else and the Hindraf guy is the best bet that he has. You are not just dealing with the economic, education and social issues here but anger and emotion, hatred – lots of that. Even Dr. Phil and Oprah can’t undo that fyi.
Give him a chance to assist his own people, I do believe they root for him as well, plus he understands his people better; and not some other Harvard/Oxford technocrat. As for what he did in the past, just put us in his shoes, with looming social and economic problems among the Indian and nobody seems to care, what would we do to attract attention? BN/MIC has failed them, we have to admit that. In addition, the rich among them don’t help the poor and they have to admit that.
I may contradict myself in here from my other posting but that other posting was merely my respond to those who keep on blaming others but themselves.
As for the rest of Najib’s, he is only human, people make mistakes Anwar Ibrahim, KJ and Tun DOL had done worst.
We can’t keep bringing down PM one after another, we will lose our solidarity in the end as no one will meet our “HIGH STANDARD” of demand.
re: “He did what he had to do before PRU13 to garner every single vote and to save BN (which unfortunately MCA didn’t).”
True. And MCA are not only useless buggers tetapi membiarkan api membara dalam sekam by letting their Gunting dalam Lipatan menjadi petualang yang menghancurkan BN dari dalam.
re: “Indian community … the bottom of the pyramid who delivered the vote for UMNO/BN”
True again. Takkan the Jerusubang “We’re NOT Indian” nak vote BN.
re: “You are not just dealing with the economic, education and social issues here but anger and emotion, hatred – lots of that. Even Dr. Phil and Oprah can’t undo that fyi.”
You’re on a roll and getting top marks.
re: “BN/MIC has failed them, we have to admit that.”
MIC controls the Tamil media (Samy Vellu family Tamil Nesan, S. Subramaniam – Makkal Osai, R. Ramanan – Thina Kural while newbie Tamil Malar is on the uptick). BN will be able to retain the Tamil-speaking, Hindu Indian vote if Umno doesn’t shoot its own foot by alienating this segment.
re: “We can’t keep bringing down PM one after another, we will lose our solidarity in the end as no one will meet our ‘HIGH STANDARD’ of demand.”
Najib’s attackers must ask themselves this: Can they put up a better candidate as replacement and who will then be No.2 (Umno deputy chairman, and automatically Malaysia Deputy Prime Minister). Terlalu pandai tupai melompat and Umno Malays will get themselves another Anwar DPM.
1. The Malays are looking up to Tan Sri Muhiyiddin Yassin and Dr. Zahid Hamidi , the ultra Malay duo. This will be the lethal combo for DAP, as both have strong religious background. DPM is a son of a Kiyai (Preacher) and Dr Zahid Hamidi and family runs and own Sekolah Tahfiz in Perak. They both have all the ingredient that the Malays want. DPM being a Johorean will definitely restrengthen UMNO Johor base.
2. The Chinese are hoping for KJ and Nazri. That’s why the J-Star is playing the drum for them. Well! God Willing that’s not going to happen.
re: “the ultra Malay duo”
That is the current trajectory, correct.
Umno history through the decades: During Tunku’s time accommodating (Spirit of Alliance) and Datuk Onn Jaafar made the first workable offer of multi-racial party (sadly not taken up).
re: “strong religious background”
Then you have the DAP evangelistas on the other side. The early Umno-MCA partnership (Tunku to Hussein Onn years) did not play up religious aspects of either race(s).
Now Ultra Malay+Extreme Islam vs Chauvinist Chinese+Fanatical Evangelism = ???
Re. Now Ultra Malay+Extreme Islam vs Chauvinist Chinese+Fanatical Evangelism = ???
That is the name of the game from now on. We are catching up.
Re. : Extreme Islam
No but certainly more in tune with moderation with notch up “measure” to rid of nonsenses.
I foresee something in tune with Tun M’s policy, “keep your mouth shut when it comes to race and religion issues for all party.
UMNO tidak sekali-kali akan mempergunakan Agama kerana Politik – In syaa Allah, the way PAS and Jerusubang do it. Langkah-langkah yang akan diambil adalah lebih kepada menerapkan nilai-nilai Islam dalam Orang Melayu/Islam itu sendiri, yang tidak akan diguna pakai pada bangsa dan agama lain. Itu yang cuba dilakukan oleh UMNO selama ini, tapi masih kurang berkesan,
“Dan berimanlah kamu dengan apa yang Aku turunkan (Al-Quran) yang mengesahkan benarnya Kitab yang ada pada kamu, dan janganlah kamu menjadi orang-orang yang mula-mula kafir (ingkar) akan dia; dan janganlah pula kamu menjadikan ayat-ayatKu (sebagai harga untuk) membeli kelebihan-kelebihan yang sedikit faedahnya; dan kepada Akulah sahaja hendaklah kamu bertaqwa”.(Surah Al-Baqarah : 41)
re: ” “keep your mouth shut”
In the Tun’s day, Internet did not have the influence that it has now and then there is the development of social media which is under the control of the DAP evangelistas who are much more marketing savvy, borrowing as they do from the Western Christians who are aeons ahead in the perception game (against Islam) as well as from the entertainment capital of Hong Kong.
Alvivi, Chatz Surau Tg. Sedili are three examples of small cases but with big impact. It is a sign. Over time people will get in tune to draw the line so as not offend each other.
Yes the internet will there, but where and when it matters, the rule and law will always favor the Malay Muslims based on Islamic teaching. The Kalimah Allah case will be the first to set the milestone, the rest will be easy.
Selagi orang bukan Islam tak “cross the line, I don’t see that there will be any problem”
As for Tudung–Songkok-Wearing and Masiid-Surau-Going evangelistas their time will be up sooner of later. They are actually playing with fire.
I want to see whether they will be drumming the same tune during Deepavali. and Tamillians please take note.
re: “Selagi orang bukan Islam tak cross the line, I don’t see that there will be any problem”
They already have. They subvert ‘puasa’ and ‘#sahur’, they mimic tudung and songkok-wearing like chameleons, they host Rumah Terbuka Raya for Chinese crowd and ultimately they are determined to kebas kalimah Allah whereby the church can become Rumah Allah.
Re : They already have.
The Muslim/Malay/UMNO is a sensible lot..We just don’t jump the gun. Once we move, the picture is not pretty as you can see from the last few cases and issues. The truth hurts and the oppo. Cina DAP and Tammillians can’t handle it.
Let’s say JAKIM comes up with fatwa saying ” Haram orang bukan Islam masuk masjid, pakai songkok, Baju kurung, Baju Melayu tudung etc.”. (which is not true in this case as there is no such fatwa and ruling in Islam). The oppo. will go to town with the news.
How are we going to charge them anyway? Apa pun UMNO/BN buat semua salah dan korup. So they have been dancing to that tune for a long while now. There will come a time where the music will stop and “it will bite them back on the ass (as RPK said)”.
As I said, let nature takes it course. There will be time and issue regarding Islam where they (the Muslim-Malay-Centric YBs) have to choose, make decision and take side. What would their decision be? They are playing with fire, wrong move from them will result in “kena kejar dengan batang penyapu”.
Let’s see what was their reaction and comment once the Kalimah Allah final verdict is out in September.
LOL,
I beg to differ. If being seen as “terhegeh hegeh” is interpreted as trying very hard to reach the chinese, then the result is very dissapointing.
What Najib did and still doing are very damaging. Najib’s way is agreeing to whatever requests . This is very unhealthy. What any leader should do is being firm and fair. Agreeing to mind boggling requests ranging from abolishing preventive laws known to be effective and introduction of “dakwat kekal” are sign of weaknesses.
Did he gain respect from doing all that? No. instead they turn the table and saying nonsense thaT “dakwat kekal” is a facade to hide irregularities.
Najib is of course human. Only Malays feel that he underestimate the importance of the very people who support his government.
WEAK!!!
Re. if being seen as “terhegeh hegeh” is interpreted as trying very hard to reach the chinese, then the result is very dissapointing.
VERY TRUE. Let’s turn the table now. Can Cina DAP goes up to him and say we demand this and that now?
They probably can but will Najib give them face other than his normal standard diplomatic answer. Look at the issue of decreasing percentage of Chinese students enrollment in IPTA this year? Have you heard any progress or any big hoo ha like several years before. No right?
I don’t follow, fancy or even trust Raja Petra, but what he said before PRU13 was true, the way the Cina DAP is behaving will soon bite them back in the ass., and It is already happening.
We will see many more issues and events “yang akan menyakitkan hati Cina DAP’, Najib will be Najib and his deportment will remain the same, but his people will finish the job and we are already seeing some.
Re “I’m not sure if the Malays realise this or not but in your backlash against the Chinese (observe the proliferation of derogatory nicknames applied on the Chinese community of late) vote swing, you have radicalized.”
All of us realize that. After years of being labelled as “tidak apa” people (which is actually part of being moderate and patience as Muslim), enough is enough finally.
Re. “Look at how Umno is treating the non-English speaking and Hindu Indians. Umno seems intent on sending the Tamilians back into Pakatan’s arms.”
The ball is in the Tamilians’ court now. If they think that Pakatan has served and will serve them better, so be it. Apa oun Melayu/UMNO/BN buat akan tetap kena kutuk dengan mereka.
Re. “Dr Mahathir Mohamad in his Gelang Patah caution has already warned against religious conflict and a possible racial confrontation erupting. In Malaysia, race and religion overlap.”
Gelang Patah is the deciding factor and the ultimate PH test of the Chinese overall sincerity. No Malay would care should LKS had won in other constituency, where the Cina DAP has benefited from DAP and him as well as his son personally. We are talking about Tan Ah Eng’s legacy and Ghani Othman’s track record in Johor here.
Well before PRU13 everyone and in particular the Jerusubang congregation and DAPsters, were talking and singing the color-blind politics tune, but look who is the biggest hypocrite in the end here; the GREEDY and SELFISH Cina DAP. Thing would have been different should Ghani Othman who had served the Johorean since 1995 with a good track record and LIM KIT SIANG? Anyone
Re. “With this in mind, why are the Umno politicians still sabre-rattling? What do the Umno members and supporters really want?”
As you mentioned in one of the postings, “Walau Tujuh Dulang Hati Nyamuk pun di hantar sebagai hantaran pada Cina DAP,” they still won’t vote BN.
So be it. The Malays have always had our ways of doing things to our advantage whether they like it or not. We will consolidate and we are ready to die for this country.
As for the Tamillians, if they think that Pakatan and DAP can serve and has served them better, please take advantage of this very critical time and period and start “MILKING THE PRIZED COW” now and don’t wait until nearing the PRU14.
Bising sini, Bising sana tak ada guna aci, ayya, akka, amma. Just do it and prove it that as a community you can cut across all barriers and unite for the benefit of your own community.
Do seek AMBIGA ‘s assistance to champion your course, if she can helped paralyzed the City in Bersih 2.0, I am pretty sure she is worth more than that and can do better as well (unless she is no longer consider herself as an Indian like most of the Jerusubang Indian).
Before PRU13, “APA-APA PUN TAK APA” Ajib Gor boleh kasi, not anymore my friend, it is time for business.
re: “We are talking about Tan Ah Eng’s legacy and Ghani Othman’s track record in Johor here.”
@ http://lifeofaannie.blogspot.com/2013/08/farewell-for-tan-ah-eng.html?showComment=1376155049335#c1914936581069142834
Of course this was being acknowledged in passing…did not stop them to vote for LKS, did they?!
Dalam Semak Ada Duri
Ayam Kuning Buat Sarang
Orang Tamak Selalu Rugi
Bagai Anjing Dengan Bayang-Bayang
+1
“Look at how Umno is treating the non-English speaking and Hindu Indians. Umno seems intent on sending the Tamilians back into Pakatan’s arms.”
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/seri-pristana-school-in-the-limelight-again-parent-arrested
Sigh, here we go again.
ACDC, kenapa kau kata polis salah ke dengan berbuat demikian? Boleh bagi pencerahan?
It’s against the law to issue threats to people. It’s that simple.
It’s that too difficult to understand?
Kebenaran sememangnya pahit!
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/list-of-triad-gangs-to-be-announced-says-zahid
Apa sebenar yang UMNO mahu?
UMNO mahu bagi Cina apa-apa lagi yang Cina mahu?!
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/jalan-alor-food-hub-project-to-continue-says-federal-territories-minister
Helen will this make the Cina vote for BN the next GE?
Cina will not vote BN lah.
Better the Umno war room strategize next election campaign on the basis of getting 5% or less of Chinese votes, which is negligible, which translates to ‘Don’t bother’.
So might as well Umno neutralize MCA rather than have to be dealing with musuh dalam selimut letting their Gunting dalam Lipatan shred-shred-shredding away.
Priority: Do not bleed the loss of further Malay urban and young (first-time) votes.
quote, “Cina will not vote BN lah” unquote.
That expression is being deeply minted in Malay minds now.
Helen,
Precisely.
Chinese will not vote for UMNO/BN anymore. And that include members of MCA and Gerakan too.
Why? Well UMNO represents Malays in power. It is the supremo in BN, much like DAP in PR. So, voting PR is a better alternatives as PR is controlled by DAP.
Should PR win, than DAP(racist chinese) will assume total power.
But I am not that worried. I told off one Ketua Bahagian UMNO that UMNO should concentrate on its base”Malay voters.
After all, Najib still can form the government without the Chinese. And the analysis saying that UMNO loses urban area is not accurate. UMNO lost many seats in urban areas as many constituents have say around 40% non Malay voters. In these areas(such as Ampang, Pandan, Bukit antarabangsa, Hulu Kelang) UMNO still manages to get the lion share of Malay votes. Only it lost as almost all Chinese rejected UMNO and BN.
So, lock the Malay votes. Concentrate on those who vote for you.
UMNO does seems to be keen to ‘lock the Malay votes.’ What more to ‘concentrate on those who vote for you.’ mantra can do?!
Pemimpin UMNO seems to mahu jaga periuk nasi sendiri-sendiri. Pemimpin UMNO post Tun M, hidung tak mancung, pipi tersorong-sorong!
Ralat
UMNO does NOT seems to be keen to ‘lock the Malay votes.’ What more to ‘concentrate on those who vote for you.’ mantra can do?!
Islam1st,
UMNO locks the Malay votes by default actually. The truth is that the increase of seats won by UMNO is mainly due to Malay realisation that life is far worse without UMNO in power.
I feel that too especially after seeing PAS “hilang arah” and PKR devoid of “iman dan takwa’. So, basically Malays in the last election still voted UMNO not because of its sterling performance. But rather they simply have no viable choices. And DAP is too “chinese” and maintains a very anti Malay attitude.
The urgency is felt by Malays on the ground. Unfortunately, Najib and his administration do not show the urgency the way Malays expected. Najib irritated the Malay community by appointing Hindraf guy. Malays simply do not buy his idea that appointing Hindraf will appease Indians .and they are proven right.
UMNO general assembly is the best time to kick out useless UMNO leaders. I can easily name few UMNO members such as Nazri Aziz, Hishamudin, KJ whom Malays perceive as burden to UMNO.
Mind you UMNO is not like other parties. People can tolerate a dynasty in DAP or family affair in PKR or morons selling religion in PAS. BUT UMNO cant afford to do the same mistake.
‘The truth is that the increase of seats won by UMNO is mainly due to Malay realisation that life is far worse without UMNO in power.’
Setuju. Strangely, after voted for PR, I felt this due to a lot of issues brought forward by the arrogance and cakap tak serupa bikin of PR kakis.
‘Unfortunately, Najib and his administration do not show the urgency the way Malays expected. Najib irritated the Malay community by appointing Hindraf guy. Malays simply do not buy his idea that appointing Hindraf will appease Indians .and they are proven right.’
Setuju. If MIC tak boleh buat kerja, buat apa simpan. MIC, PPP, IPF, Hindraf, berapa banyak persatuan daa kita mau layan?!
‘UMNO general assembly is the best time to kick out useless UMNO leaders. I can easily name few UMNO members such as Nazri Aziz, Hishamudin, KJ whom Malays perceive as burden to UMNO.’
Sangat setuju. Tapi nampak gayanya, macam takdak Ubah saja dalam PAU nanti!
http://dinturtle.blogspot.com/2013/08/perkasa-mahu-najib-lepaskan-jawatan.html
Islam1st,
No need for UMNO members to whine a nd “merengek rengek”. Power is in their hands. Just do the simple thing. throw out useless UMNO MPs and ADUNs who are problematic.
No need to feel “sayang ” and “kesian” to those politicians who rose because of malay supports but now insult Malays. A finre example is KJ.
He questionned Utusan for asking what more Chinese wants. That is a genuine remark. what else do the chinese want?
The same goes to Nazri Aziz who brushed aside all concerns on his flamboyant son . The image itself already damages UMNO.
We expect UMNO leaders to be firm. Firm and fair. It is not that difficult. Tun Dr Mahathir already showed the way. Many hated him but they respect him. do not try to curry favour from him.
UMNO’s problem is that it irritates Malays by acting as if UMNO lost the election. The opposite is the truth. It won the election 13 times consecutively, a world record.
UMNO alone can form the Federal government if it stops the disgusting habit of donating seats to dying MCA and Gerakan. In fact now with UMNO won 88 seats and its version in Sarawak, PBB are anough to get simple majority.
I am not denying other races contributions or influence. But I hate when UMNO becomes apologetic.
Today I read Najib wants to give lanterns to his tweetes friends(must be Chinese). I never heard him wanting to give ketupat or Kurma to Malay voters. My goodness. He has yet to grasp Chinese total rejection on his government..
That shows character. So I say top of the list to go is Najib himself.
Nobody is indispensable. Remember Prophet Muhammad SAW( pbuh) passed away and Islam still spreads to every corner of the world.
‘So I say top of the list to go is Najib himself.’
I would say so too. UMNO it seems, perhaps UMNO top leaders are, myopic in their thought process and approaches. Especially the gendang cina playing PM kucing!
meow, meow…
meow, meow, go and play with your kucing. Leave the governing of the country to Muhyiddin and Zahid. And don’t forget to take your Black Rose along with you. High time also the other useless liberals KJ, Nazri and your own cousin Hishamuddin to vacate their positions along with their kuncus including Regina Lee, Omar Ong, Isa Samad etc.
FYI, I also love kucing and have severals as pets. But I don’t have the responsibility of governing the country on my shoulder and so I am able to devote as much time as I want to my kucing.
Re. The truth is that the increase of seats won by UMNO is mainly due to Malay realisation that life is far worse without UMNO in power.
I have said this even before PRU13. I think over LKS vs Ghani Othman in Gelang Patah. Both Helen and I agreed that LKS would win and BN will remain in power.
This is the more reason why the UMNO supporters should not cut off their nose to spite our face. As always there will be faction in UMNO even during Tun M time in the 80’s, 90’s and then came Tun Dol in the 2000’s. As always we managed to close rank despite of it all.
I have seen/noticed few UMNO young leaders started to make/play a calculative move/game, by declaring that they are not contesting for the MP post. Dr Zamri and Datuk Razali Ismail are two of them. I think they have seen and learned from the past that the quieter you are the better the chances for you to go up. H2O did the same as well before (by playing malu malu kucing), he succeeded but failed to deliver when he is on top. Mukhriz Mahathir is another example and look very promising indeed.
KJ and Nazri If yoiu are reading this PLEASE GET LOST….
I think Najib should join them too!
LOL,
That shows character. That shows Dr Zambri (despite being mocked for his dark complexion) has a good heart. He is not greedy.
After all, he is already the MB, the head of government of a state. Hat off to him.
And i still until today heard how Malay elders in Perak still mention Tan Sri ghazali Jawi’s name with respect. He is respected until today for being honest and firm to his principle.
May Allah SWT bless his soul. If there are 10 UMNO leaders in Majlis Tertinggi have the similar character, I believe fture will bew “kind” to Malays.
This project has been on the pipeline for a long time but stalled due to protest by Cina DAP. I remember it was first being the issue of changing Jalan Alor name to Jalan Wau Bulan or something by the then KL Mayor. It was a big hoo ha back then as the Cina DAP claimed that it wolud erase the history, culture of the Cina DAP. It died down after that.
You see…No More AMARAN and TIDAK APA now. The side focus of this project is to rid off the vices around the area.
Next to go is Petaling Street. The Cina DAP had protest the same as well before… it is a matter of time now. Can they say anything about it now?
Dalam Semak Ada Duri
Ayam Kuning Buat Sarang
Orang Tamak Selalu Rugi
Bagai Anjing dengan Bayang-Bayang
Sigh-here we go again, Kollywood styles!
http://beliabangkit.blogspot.com/2013/05/video-poyo-berlakon-pengsan-selepas.html
While some, especially UMNO supporters see Najib as trying to please the opposition supporters, giving in, selling out, I however see it differently. I think his strategy is actually to close the gap between BN & PR. If the gap narrows to a certain point, then PR would lose it’s upperhand because the urban and new voters can relate to BN/UMNO more, unlike now. I think KJ and a few others have actually made inroads.
The traditional voter block in rural areas are shrinking in numbers. I noticed that quite a few BN pollies lost through new voters, while maintaining more or lest the same number of votes as PRU12… I remember seeing one such case in Kedah, an MCA candidate, the majority that the PR candidate got was very close to the number of new voters. Those new voters went back to vote… for PR.
The reality is other communities, (Chinese & Indians) are indeed abandoning BN… UMNO.
I would like to share an anecdote. The other day, a Chinese friend of mine asked a question to a Malay cashier in English. It was at a big establishment. The cashier pretended not to understand. So my friend asked again in Malay. Then the cashier replied in English, with a sly smile. Good customer service.
re: “quite a few BN pollies lost through new voters, while maintaining more or lest the same number of votes as PRU12”
Yes, in Terengganu. It’s Umno Malay vs PAS Malay, so the Chinese factor doesn’t kick in. Umno lost to PAS due to the young Malay votes. See, https://helenang.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/umno-kena-hentam-left-right-and-sabah/
Helen,
This was before the Chinese-Tsunami factor was realized by many Malays. I believe it is going to be different from now on.
As you can see from the last PRU, UMNO was gaining the Malay votes over PAS, including the big inroad in Kelantan.
The B.C.L campaign is slowly gaining traction.
Some Chinese shoppers are slowly feeling the pinch now.
Bumiputra’s having higher sales in insurance, unit trusts, MLM, etc., due to the swing of Malay consumers trading with them.
During my last visit to Pasar Sg Besi recently, I noticed Malays were buying their fresh seafood supplies and veges from Malay traders, and the Cina counters were a bit deserted.
Slowly, Malays are fighting back.
It is everywhere actually. I do go to Giant in B Bintang every now and then if and only the Malay or Indian sundry shops that frequent after PRU13 is close. Even then, I will only buy the Bumi products.
Malays nowadays frequent Carefour or Tesco more than Giant or its bog brother Cold Storage. Even if they do, priority is given to Bumi products. I buy my fresh produce from pasar pagi somewhere in B Bintang area, and you can see that the Malay vendors are smiling from ear to ear with the support they received from the Malay customers.
For those who are not in the know, both Cold Storage and Giants are owned by two brothers, being Cold Storage selling the premium goods and Giant sells the leftover from the earlier. They now have a third chain to sell leftover from Giant. I can’t recall the name.
quote, “being Cold Storage selling the premium goods and Giant sells the leftover from the earlier”, unquote.
fruits sold in Cold Storage are of superior quality than those sold in Giant.
patutlaa…
Yes. I will get the name for their third outlet that sells leftover from Giant.
If you are in B Bintang go to I-setan supermarket. The quality is much better. The staff sometimes will even offer you fresh produce right from the box. I usually buy Pisang Montel from there or other exotic fruits.
Helen,
Malay young voters?
Dah siasat tentang kem Menteri Besar dengan kem Menteri Pendidikan 2.
Helen, I nak tanya u sikit.
Pekan kira rural or urban? DSN and wife are considered kampung voters eh? What about Anwar Ibrahim’s Kampung Cerok Tok kun? Never been to Gelang Patah, rasa2 bukan kawasan urban so LKS also considered as urban voter juga ke?
Yang you sebut urban voters ni siapa? Teresa Kok’s majorities reflect the mentality of urban voters?
Analysis you okay ker?
Hear Helen,
Kalau dilihat keadaan sekarang, pemimpin UMNO, bukan kebanyakan ahli UMNO, merindui pelukan dari orang-orang cina yang kini dah terlepas dan sudah tak dirasai lagi kepanasannya seperti dulu. Kalau tak percaya tanyalah si Najib. Dia telah beritahu sebaik sahaja keputusan PRU13, bahawa dia merasa hampa atas kehilangan pelukan tersebut.
What does UMNO really want ? To remain in power.
The more important question, how do they go about retaining power ?
For the first time UMNO has only the Malay vote to keep them in power and the legitimacy of their rule not to mention the so called power sharing formula has been exposed for the sham that it became.
UMNO’s sabre rattling is not reflective of the tensions in the Malay community but rather the fissures within UMNO.
The split within the Malay community is reflective of the voting patterns of the urban/rural classes and the emergence of credible Malay power structures which are a threat to UMNO’s hegemony.
Christianity is a convenient way to contextualize the “Malay/Islam” struggle that UMNO claims to be fighting but as history has shown, in the end, esp with Muslim countries, the downfall of regimes would be predicated on class issues not religious ones.
Re. What does UMNO really want ? To remain in power.
May I add, They want to remain in power for perpetuity.
I agree, they want to remain in power forever.
But isn’t that what politics is all about?
Do you think PR would want to relinquish their power in Selangor, Kelantan and Penang?
As said time and again ” Cakap Tak Serupa Bikin”
Well I think the issue here, what UMNO will do to remain in power.
Unfortunately for democracy, demagoguery is an effective method of appealing to the lowest common denominator, this last bit one of the drawbacks of democracy.
Wb Conrad
It is enlightening reading your comment as always. :)
Yeah right as IF DAP, PKR, PAS etc. don’t ?
CAKAP TAK SERUPA BIKIN.
Why do you think DAP is facing that CEC debacle now?
Oh I forgot, it is UMNO/BN/ROS’s fault right?
It just like the caste system, the higher caste wants to remain BRAHMIN forever, but the Dalit wants to abolish the system if they could.
Re:”Yeah right as IF DAP, PKR, PAS etc. don’t ?”
These political parties want to gain Federal power which is different from the question posed by Helen which concerns UMNO.
All political parties want power, that’s axiomatic.
A more appropriate analogy instead of the caste system, would be the feudalistic mind set of the Malay political elite/polity which is reflected in the Malay power structures – Establishment and Opposition- of this country.
Re:”Why do you think DAP is facing that CEC debacle now?”
Because in many ways they are as incompetent as UMNO ?
Way to go LOL
It is enlightening reading your comment as always. :)
Thanks for the kind words.
Edit to correct.
Thanks for the kind words, HH.
Conrad,
EVery political party entering election wants to win. In Malaysian scenario, UMNO won the election as it simply able to get the lion share of the largest racial group; the Malays.
UMNO earns the mandate by winning the largest block of Malay voters. And contrary to what you said, UMNO does not play the racial card.
As i said earlier, if UMNO wants to play racial card the way DAP does, it would have done that much earlier. And the word to describe Chinese community then is “annihilation”.
You will b e surprise to hear that the percentage of Malays voted UMNO is higher in 2013 than 2008. Which translated into UMNO capturing Kedah and making inroad in Kelantan. To say that UMNO lost the urban Malay is misleading. UMNO however lost many urban seats that are mixed in racial composition.
And Malays voted UMNO as they are not happy weith Christians demanding to use “allah” (to spread Christianity) and supported by PAS.
Re. if UMNO wants to play racial card
I think we should from now on as we got nothing to lose.
Re. “You will be surprise to hear that the percentage of Malays voted UMNO is higher in 2013 than 2008. Which translated into UMNO capturing Kedah and making inroad in Kelantan. To say that UMNO lost the urban Malay is misleading. UMNO however lost many urban seats that are mixed in racial composition.”
I was on my way back from buying my daily staple of Pisang Goreng after Asar prayer today. There was this 73 year old pak cik, civil servant retiree and ardent PAS supporter who was walking with me; the thing is he is still livid and in disbelief that Datuk Harun Din, the PAS Ulama, lost in Parliment Arau to UMNO candidate in PRU13. He was ranting all the way, and I was just laughing out loud inside. Kita Melayu kena hormat orang tua kan, so ya kan aje la cerita dia. .
That in itself shows how much stronger is UMNO now to the Malays.
I was surprised too. I just thought Haron Din akan menang dengan mudah!
Due to last redelineation for GE12 & GE13, there’s 119 Malay-majority seats with 78 rurals, 27 semi-urbans & 14 urbans.
With SPR due for another redelineation exercise end-2013, the proportion of rural Malay seats should dropped and more urban & semi-urban Malay seats should increase. Latest 2010 data urbanization rate in Malaysia is 71%. So generally rural areas are emptying out or stagnating as more people migrate to urban areas for work, study & opportunity. In Peninsular, the urbanization rate is easily 80-85%.
According to the Constitution, without 2/3 majority approval in Parliament, SPR cannot increase the numbers of MPs. They can only adjust seat boundaries to reflect population growth and density.
So in GE14 expect heavy losses of rural Malay seats and high number of urban & semi-urban Malay seats to be created!
UMNO lost badly in urban & semi-urban Malay seats in GE13.
In case, you have the time to check out the statistics below:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/two-thirds-of-pakatan-ge13-wins-in-multi-racial-seats-research-shows
~ Anak Pasir Gudang
Shamsul,
No dispute that UMNO survives because of the Malay vote which does not mean that the Malay community is not split.
Whether UMNO has a “mandate” is debatable but I am more inclined to side with Art Harun arguments on this than any of the intelligentsia of PR.
You are wrong when you say that UMNO does not play the racial card. Post 69′ the only cards they played were racial ones. The whole public sector was socially engineered and policies were put in place that further Arabized this country.
UMNO CANNOT annihilate the Chinese community because that would be signing their death warrant. A kleptocratic regime needs a cookie jar to flitch from and that is what the Chinese community is.
In other words those precious privileges that UMNO harps about is financed by the economic safety net the Chinese provide.
While we may disagree on the Kedah situation, it is pointless claiming that UMNO has the Malay vote locked down or making the argument that Malays voted for UMNO did so because of the Allah controversy.
What of those Malays who did not vote for UMNO. Are they less religious ? No, people voted for UMNO for a variety of reasons, mostly nationalistic but in no way does UMNO’s precarious position with the Malay vote mean they dominate the community in terms of influence.
If that were so, they would not be so obsessed with PAS leaving PR or attempting to consolidate their power through right wing nationalistic rhetoric.
Conrad,
I never say anything on Malays not voting UMNO. But nobody can deny its share of Malay votes increases.
What i am stressing is that PAS lost badly the Malay votes as Malays are unhappy that it renounces whatever Islamic principles.
Many of my non Malay friends simply refuse to appreciate how PAS lost Malay votes because of “Allah: controversy. As malays have not adopted habits of “hyterical” over the issue the way some community went berserk if one gangster killed by police (happened to be from same race), Malays are mistaken as could not be bothered.
I warned my PAS friends on the issue. They laughed at me. Until May 5. Then all laughing stop. they chose to learn through ballot box,.
But of course, there are many other issues. Najib may not see it but Malays know “ini kalilah” is meant to dislodge UMNO(Malays) from power to be replaced by DAP.
Shamsul,
I have made no claim that UMNO doesn’t enjoy the support of the majority of Malays, which does not invalidate my point that there is a schism in the Malay polity.
I understand that many Malays who do support UMNO believe that the DAP and the Chinese community wish to assume power , even though I believe this type of propaganda is what is going to lead to an eventual class warfare in the Malay community.
A hint of which is in your comment about hysteria and the issue of deaths (Malay) by the PDRM. The question is why doesn’t the Malay mainstream media highlight these issues esp about cases of alleged police brutality made by Malay inmates ?
The answer to questions like this will eventually lead to a showdown.
Conrad,
Let me make it simple for you to understand. If UMNO intends to play racial card the way “immortalised” by DAP, it would have done that 50 years ago.
But UMNO does not do that as that is not the intention. as for annihilation, we can see how messy it is when a party without power in Federal, DAP, actively plays racial issue. So just imagine if the real ruling party joins it.
It would be in scale unheard off. We still remember hundreds were dead when a Chinese procession shows “penyapu: to Malay folks. Let us imagine maginitude of destruction if those in power decides to play racial card.
Shamsul,
I have already defined what playing the race card means in terms of government policy and rhetoric.
You on the other think that UMNO has never played the race card even when it comes to the above mentioned policies and the reality of race based politics in this country.
Discussing this issue with you is like discussing the discriminatory practises in the private sector with a “race blind” member of the Chinese community.
What you are talking about is inciting racial violence. Your narrative of May 1969 greatly differs from mine, where I lay the blame on UMNO or you the DAP.
I have no problem accepting the fact that UMNO with the state machinery behind it could wipe out the Non Malay in this country.
Whether a significant majority of the Malay community would desire this is another matter.
Conrad,
I have been living in the US for many years and is married to an American. Before GE 13, I couldn’t be bothered with Malaysian politics and was not even interested in reading any political blogs. But late last year my eldest sister urged me to come back home to vote as the future survival of our race is in jeopardy and every vote counts. And she advised me to read opposition blogs.
I can say that by reading pro-opposition blogs have opened my eyes wide and the Chinese tsunami in GE 13 have opened my eyes even wider. We, the Malays all this while had been very generous towards the nons and now they have become very biaDAP. Now they even want to grab what we have in our pockets. We are the sons/daughters of the soil and you people are able to live in this Tanah Melayu atas our ehsan.
When you start to challenge our rights and privileges as the sons /daughters of the soil of this Malay land, we can also question and challenge your validity of remaining in this country. Remember that you are here is based on our EKHSAN and nothing more.
If I who live overseas and is exposed to other cultures have this kind of sentiment, do you think the Malays/Muslims who are in Malaysia could feel any lesser? I think some of them are even willing to kill if push comes to shove. I haven’t come to that level, yet, eventhough I’m a pretty good shooter myself and own several guns.
BTW, I’m the same Anon above and also else where and will use ‘Aku Melayu’ from now on.
Thanks. Appreciate that you have adopted a pseudonym in my blog. It makes it easier for other commenters and silent readers to get a handle on the individual’s train of thoughts when his moniker is distinctive (like lousy.engineer or shamshul anuar).
yr comment too open my eyes for the fact that u have no sense of shame to marry a bully that almost wipe out the native and now call themselves american, but u still sound as if u know anything about the rights and privileges wrt the sons/daughters of the soil, of course it would be a different story if u married a arab american and live in little arabia. r u?
Bangsa macam you ni memang suka buli melayu kan, apasal ahh?
Anonymous,
I have no idea where you get that your “race” is in jeopardy and if your source for this is pro Opposition echo chambers, you are operating under a serious set of delusions. That would be like me saying that all Malays are ignorant, racists , psychopaths by reading pro Establishment blogs.
You have had very little to do with the state of this country beyond voting for a Regime which has implemented polices that not only has been prejudicial to the Non Malays but also has had a negative impact on the Malay community.
The average Malay has certainly not been generous to the Non Malay but I would argue has been generous to UMNO after years of criminally inept policies which has seen the Chinese community thrive even with the systemic discrimination while the Malay community by the admissions of their own leaders, lag behind.
I am here based on the economic advantage and historical relevance of my community who helped build this country coupled with the machinations and then negotiated settlement between a Colonial power and the Rulers of this land.
Your rights and privileges are sustained by the continuing economic advantage and social dialectic the Non Malays bring to this country, you never forget that.
Right and the Malays are doing nothing, just act dumb while you guys work your asses and spoon fed us all! Betul sangat la tu!
Conrad,
That is the thing with Shamsul. He thinks that being racist just means ethnic cleansing and race based murders, when it actually includes thinking and actions.
If we take Shamsul’s definition of race card and racist, then a person who refuses to lease a house to a black person because of his attitude to blacks, is not a racist. Because he has not killed that black person.
Anonymous,
And meanwhile you live in the United States where they welcome people of all races and religions to move in. While in Malaysia, people are still stuck in this hubris of racial thinking.
Conrad,
I stand on what i said. DAP incited the chinese that resulted in may 13.
Not to worry about UMNO’s ability to ‘wipe out…’ That is not the intention. malays are muslims, “umat nabi muhammad SAW”.
If wiping out the chinese is the intention (the way DAP will do if it assumes power), UMNO would have done 50 years ago.
Race based politics is a reality. Do not whine. after call, chinese insist on separate schools.
As for Government policies, check the constitution. Do you expect Malay rulers to grant 1 million citizenship in one day(still a world record) without any reciprocity towards Malays.
AC-DC, kudos for raising the contradiction in Anon/Aku Melayu’s American/Malaysian stand on the issue of race.
Shamsul,
Our narratives will always be different when it comes to who caused May 13. I suspect if the both of us had any real interest in exploring this issue we would discover that the truth/reality is far more complex that either of our narratives.
As for your contention that I need not fear violence as a form of retribution from the Malay community because of their faith in Islam….ok, I will accept this point as an honest statement of moderation and ignore historical context.
I do not think that the DAP wants to wipe out the Malay community. If anything I think they and their Malay partners want the status quo to remain but with different figure heads. Because of the “principles” they claim to have, I find this extremely offensive. But the Malay community has nothing to fear unless they truly desire real (egalitarian) change, at which point they do have a problem…..
I have never whined about racial politics only that the application of it by UMNO, is neither utilitarian nor transparent.
The Malay rulers were “reciprocated” by a Colonial power and the fact that “foreign” labour had created a “country”.
We did not asked for the foreign labour, did we? The British did and why are we to blame again?
The best part is when you said DAP=egalitarian change. Get sober soon will you?
Apa sebenarnya Pulau Pinang mau?
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/807294
Why can’t the Iguana just follow thru? Even the theme of Hari Kebangsaan becomes a tug-of-war. Or is Penang is separate country?
re: “Or is Penang is separate country?”
https://helenang.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/republic-of-singapore-north/
Penang is a separate country…in Tokong and pengikut2 Tokongs head!!!
http://dinturtle.blogspot.com/2013/08/kosmo-hari-ini-menjadikan-artikel.html
Apa lagi Cina mahu?
The conclusion I draw from GE13 is this. The Chinese have said no to BN. The Christians in Peninsula also said no to BN. The Indian middle class also said no to BN.
Now those Bumiputeras who have gained nothing from BN will also start thinking. If the Chinese can say no, if Christians in Peninsula can say no, if the Indian middle class can say no, they too can say no to the BN in the coming GE14.
Anybody dares to bet against the Obama Romney 2012 moment in GE14 ?
If BN continues as it is, its all over in GE14 Year 2018.
Re. “Now those Bumiputeras who have gained nothing from BN..
What haven’t we gained. Please read my postings in relation to AC DC’s comment about what the Malay have gained over the year until present.
Just because it is not in your pocket, that doesn’t mean you gain nothing. JANGANLAH MELAMPAU SANGAT…
Re. will also start thinking. If the Chinese can say no, if Christians in Peninsula can say no, if the Indian middle class can say no, they too can say no to the BN in the coming GE14. ”
and cut your nose to spite your face in the process.
In Pakatan, DAP is the Taiko, PAS and PKR are just tools for them and the Chinese. Otherwise they would have put PAS leader as MB in Selangor instead of PKR’s; despite PAS won bigger number of seats in PRU13. In Penang no PAS leader in their Exco list.
Where do you think the Malays will be in the overall hierarchy should Pakatan take control.
Marahkan Nyamuk Kelambu Di Bakar.
LOL,
These non-Malays still fail to realize that most Malays/Muslims despise DAP and everything that has got to do with it. We know which party is in control in Selangor even though the MB, the sleepy head Khalid is from PKR.
The Malays in PKR are a useless bunch of dummies and the party will only continue to exist if Anwar is still relevant but Anwar is now becoming unpopular by the day.
And I hope PAS will break away from the coalition soon. Without PKR and PAS, will DAP garner more votes in GE 14? The Chinese and urban Indians will be a sure thing but not from the Malays/Muslims/Bumis both from urban and rural areas. The more these Evangelists in DAP main wayang, the more we the Malays hate them.
They still need the Malay votes and business. There is no two way about it for them.
They didn’t realize that BN/UMNO is always I step ahead of them of which I can’t reveal much…. LOL
Speaking of cutting the nose to spite the face, is it not the likes of you who are coming up with expensive bizzare schemes to suppress Penang, which only backfires, ends up in failure or is unsuccessful?
Is the hysterical reaction from Perkasa, Utusan, and the fringe right to persecute minorities a perfect case of ‘bakar kelambu kerana marah nyamuk’ or ‘bakar rumah kerana marahkan adik’?
DAP contested not even 25% of the total Parliament seats and won less than 18%. No way they can control Malaysia. PAS and PKR will actually have more control in a Pakatan Rakyat government.
Malam dengar bunyi cengkerik
Di taman rumah sunyi sepi
Bakar rumah kerana marah adik
LOL si rasis akhirnya rugi
Re. LOL si rasis akhirnya rugi
Pembetulan I am an Utra-Malay-Racist.
RM4.2 Billion untuk Bumiputera
(Sakitkan Hati bila Baca. We are invading Bukit Bintang Area. Menara Warisan is going as well despite Cina DAP objection last time…Ha Ha Ha)
Putrajaya: Kerajaan menyediakan peruntukan khas tambahan sebanyak RM4.2 bilion untuk empat lagi projek mega yang akan diagihkan kepada syarikat Bumiputera.
Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Razak, berkata peruntukan di bawah inisiatif peruntukan khas Bumiputera itu memberi peluang kepada syarikat terbabit menyertai projek Menara Warisan Merdeka, Bukit Bintang City Centre, Pembangunan Tanah RRI Sungai Buloh dan Pusat Pameran MATRADE.
Buka peluang
“Sebanyak 40 peratus daripada nilai projek ini diperuntukkan kepada syarikat Bumiputera yang secara langsung membuka peluang kontrak bernilai RM4.2 bilion,” katanya pada sidang media selepas mesyuarat Majlis Tindakan Agenda Bumiputera (MTAB), di sini semalam.
Ada antara empat projek itu sedang dilaksanakan seperti Pusat Pameran Matrade, manakala Menara Warisan masih di peringkat awal dan tempoh pelaksanaan sedang diputuskan. Projek Bukit Bintang City Centre pula dalam peringkat penentuan dari segi permohonan untuk cadangan, manakala Pembangunan Tanah RRI dijangka dimulakan tidak lama lagi.
Empat projek ini mempunyai garis masa berbeza tetapi dijangka dalam lima tahun akan datang, projek ini akan dilaksanakan dan ada yang siap sepenuhnya, katanya. ”
http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles/RM4_2buntukBumiputera/Article
AD-CD
As an Indian you and your community gain nothing. What do you do about it?
Pretending to be Cina DAP does not help to boost your ego and self-esteem.
“If BN continues as it is, its all over in GE14 Year 2018.”
Majority wins. This is the rule of democracies all round the world. Ini kalilah – dream on!
Survivor,
“… Bumiputera who have gained nothing…”
are you mad?
Harlo2, just to point out. Subramaniam’s initial is S and not V as written. Cheers Helen.
:)
Thanks. Typo.
Apa lagi mereka mahu?
http://bigdogdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/08/27/finally-tuhan-is-godfinally-tuhan-is-god/
Awas, kenyataan media dengan Toilet Bowl BM detected!
We never question the Christians in Sabah and Sarawak of using Kalimah Allah as their Bible is in Malay. Yang menggatal sangat-sangat adalah the Christians from west Malaysia especially the Chinese. Do you think they want to read the Malay Bible when their grasp of the Malay language is tonggang langgang? These Chinese are mostly ‘bananas’ their skin is yellow but inside they want to be Whites and they want to read Bible in Malay? Give me a break!
Ya, can we have enough of the bullshit already, they don’t even want to speaks BM in the first place.
Low class la. Kampung la. Sakai la. No progress la. Suddenly nak bible Melayu for them? Give me a break, too!
Or they simply wants to be the Arab that they get to despised all day?! Arabization works at the other end juga nampaknya!
Dear Anon @ 10.00pm
Quote:” We never question the Christians in Sabah and Sarawak of using Kalimah Allah as their Bible is in Malay. Yang menggatal sangat-sangat adalah the Christians from west Malaysia especially the Chinese”
You raised a valid question and I am compelled to answer. The bible in West Malaysia is the same BM bible used in Sabah and Sarawak. The churches here are asking to use the same BM bible permitted in Sabah and Sarawak, for believers in West Malaysia who prefer BM to other language. These people are mostly from the Indonesian and Orang asli congregation whose language of choice is Bahasa.